Manchester Dogs Home Fire

haras_nosirrah

Considering the response of the country after things like dunblane which was before social media campaigns and things like just giving I expect there would be more of a reaction if something similar happened to a children's home.

dandelionclock30

SailorSam wrote: »

I like Dogs. I got my last dog from the Rspca home at Halewood in Liverpool and i'm thinking of getting another. I feel very sorry for what has happend in Manchester. So this isn't an anti-animals post, but i wonder if £500k would be promised to a childrens disaster so soon.

What an odd thing to say.
Considering children in need gets millions, I would also say they would get a lot.

OnAndUp

SailorSam wrote: »

I like Dogs. I got my last dog from the Rspca home at Halewood in Liverpool and i'm thinking of getting another. I feel very sorry for what has happend in Manchester. So this isn't an anti-animals post, but i wonder if £500k would be promised to a childrens disaster so soon.

I agree with the others - what an odd thing to say?

OF COURSE people would donate in the exact same way to children or anyone else in need!

Just recently many people donated to Childrens Cancer Charity to try and help Ashya King - the young boy with a Brain Tumour whose parents took him out of hospital and went abroad.

It's just a Social Media awareness thing, like the Ice Bucket challenge look how much that has raised for ALS & Macmillan!

sheramber

Thoughts are with the staff and helpers and emergency services. What they saw and went through last night is horrific to think about

An excellent post in the Guardian


Manchester Dogs’ Home fire: it can’t be just one stupid lad who’s to blame

Without one kid, 60 dogs would not have died. But without hundreds of stupid adults those dogs wouldn’t have been there in the first place


Nothing can bring back the dogs who have died needlessly, but the generosity of the public will doubtless help to rebuild and reopen MDH. We may end up with facilities that are more modern, more appropriate, more humane than before, which is a silver lining. The truly compassionate step forward, however, would not be to create a home for abandoned dogs with all mod cons; it would be to create a society where a home for abandoned dogs is not needed at all.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-fire-blame-adults

RuthnJasper

SailorSam wrote: »

I like Dogs. I got my last dog from the Rspca home at Halewood in Liverpool and i'm thinking of getting another. I feel very sorry for what has happend in Manchester. So this isn't an anti-animals post, but i wonder if £500k would be promised to a childrens disaster so soon.

I believe it would have been. I do an annual voluntary stint at BBC Radio 2 each year for Children in Need and am always very touched at the generosity of people for children who need a hand in life. I think it is basic human nature (the type of nematode who does such a thing as the arsonist notwithstanding, obviously) to want to help anyone or anything suffering.

Witness responses to disasters such as the 2004 Tsunami, the earthquake in Haiti, or unnatural disasters such as September 11 or July 7, or the Lockerbie bomb - and local responses (as with the people living near the dogs' home) such as when a local child goes missing. People turn out in their hundreds to do anything they can to help.

There is wretched stuff going on in the world today, on massive scales - I daresay some will say "what are the lives of a few dogs, compared to that?" - but that isn't fair. This wasn't a war zone; it was a place of sanctuary for needy animals, and the wretched scrote who set the fire (if that turns out to be the case) knew that the buildings' occupants were in closed pens, unable to escape. Evil. Evil and sick. My gut instinct would be to lock the perpetrator in a cage, stick it inside a hut and then set fire to it and see how "funny" they think it is at that point. But I know that that's an extreme mindset and would not alleviate the damage done.

Utterly senseless; the rescue centre staff must be devastated. x

RuthnJasper

sheramber wrote: »

Thoughts are with the staff and helpers and emergency services. What they saw and went through last night is horrific to think about

An excellent post in the Guardian


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-fire-blame-adults

That's a very perceptive piece; thank you for sharing it.

sulphate

sheramber wrote: »

Thoughts are with the staff and helpers and emergency services. What they saw and went through last night is horrific to think about

An excellent post in the Guardian


Manchester Dogs’ Home fire: it can’t be just one stupid lad who’s to blame

Without one kid, 60 dogs would not have died. But without hundreds of stupid adults those dogs wouldn’t have been there in the first place


Nothing can bring back the dogs who have died needlessly, but the generosity of the public will doubtless help to rebuild and reopen MDH. We may end up with facilities that are more modern, more appropriate, more humane than before, which is a silver lining. The truly compassionate step forward, however, would not be to create a home for abandoned dogs with all mod cons; it would be to create a society where a home for abandoned dogs is not needed at all.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/12/manchester-dogs-home-fire-blame-adults

Oh yes, let's blame everyone else but the toerag that burnt the place down.

Unwanted dogs aren't just handed over by "stupid" people who have made rash decisions in purchasing the animals to begin with, they are also handed over by people whose circumstances unavoidably change and aren't given much choice but to give their pet up. That article serves to tarnish all of them with the same brush.

moggymutt

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Its really bad those poor dogs, the thing is that youth will get no proper punishment at all.Horrible little B.
People who do things like that are capable of absolutley anything.If people are able and want to offer a rescue dog a home then they should do following this.
If people were a bit kinder in the first place and went to rescues instead of breeders these places wouldnt have 200 dogs living there.

I couldn't agree more .Everyone is directing their digust at the lad responsible for the actual fire, what about directing digust at 200 dogs being in there looking for homes in the first place.

Also, 60 dogs have died a horrific death. But far more than that die unnecessarily EVERY day, being put down by the RSPCA, and shelters that don't operate a no kill policy. Hopefully a more peaceful death, but still their last days spent living in fear in kennels.

I hope enough more is raised to rebuild the Dogs Home and fund a huge dog neutering campaign in the area.

Yes, some people will have had to leave their dogs at a dogs home for unavoidable reasons such as job loss or illness, but if there were less dogs then these dogs could have been homed immediately, not sat in kennels for weeks.

People need to get it into their heads that dogs die every single day because there are just too many of them.

monty-doggy

I was at the home transporting donations over to the Cheshire site last night and then helping house and give beds and blankets to the dogs. It was harrowing and I've never experienced anything like it. The support and donations were overwhelming and I'm so please so many were rescued. That's what needs to be focused on now, and re building the home so it's better than before.
God bless those who lost their little lives x

RedBern

Great to see all the donations, but is there not insurance in place that will pay for the cost of rebuilding??