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  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    Aww yeah, that is exactly how she did it :cool:

    We used to fight over who was getting to lick the spoon and pot after it was ready and every time we ended up with burnt tongues :eek: :rotfl:

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: did you not realise that's how they tested it was ready? :D :rotfl:

    Same feeling as licking a frosted washing line pole :eek: they both strip a layer off your tongue. *hopes someone else has licked a frozen washing line pole* :o :rotfl:
  • lutzi1
    lutzi1 Posts: 2,703 Forumite
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    I'm afraid that anyone who claims that Scotland will be able to continue to use the pound if it votes for independence is either being dishonest or simply fails to understand the concept of a currency and the lender of last resort.

    Of course Scotland could call its currency the (Scottish) pound, but without the backing of the Bank of England it would not be the same currency and the currency markets would differentiate between the two in terms of both exchange rates and interest on borrowing. To pretend anything else is to be dishonest and mislead people in my opinion.

    If the Scots want independence then good luck to them, that's absolutely fine - but it must be true independence, not that of the teenager who moves out his parents' house but thinks he can take his washing home, raid the larder and call on the Bank of Mum and Dad every time he overspends. That simply won't happen.
    Hope is not a strategy.
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    fairclaire wrote: »
    :kisses3: I agree with some of that. But emotions are a very important part of life too, just as important as detail.
    We need a hybrid :D:p :rotfl:

    That suggests I don't feel emotion(s). Which is - you know!;) - far from the truth. In fact, to some extent 'we' probably feel emotions (inside ourselves) much more strongely than most people. Just as you don't have a complete inability to see any detail ever.

    I don't know - I don't think emotions are "just as important" as detail. Emotions are far more important.

    Sometimes, or often.

    Also, "non-autistic" people do have ability to attend to detail, sometimes.
  • fairclaire wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: did you not realise that's how they tested it was ready? :D :rotfl:

    Same feeling as licking a frosted washing line pole :eek: they both strip a layer off your tongue. *hopes someone else has licked a frozen washing line pole* :o :rotfl:

    She used to drop a teaspoon of the mix into water in this little green cup she had to see how it set, if it wasn't enough it was back on the heat to be beaten some more :D

    As for the frozen washing line pole....

    Well I'm afraid you're on your own there :p :rotfl::rotfl:
    ...those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

    PRIDE

    There's a fork in the road, which way will you go
    You standing still or will you step into the great unknown,
    Is yours to decide, this is your life.


  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    lutzi1 wrote: »
    I'm afraid that anyone who claims that Scotland will be able to continue to use the pound if it votes for independence is either being dishonest or simply fails to understand the concept of a currency and the lender of last resort.

    Of course Scotland could call its currency the (Scottish) pound, but without the backing of the Bank of England it would not be the same currency and the currency markets would differentiate between the two in terms of both exchange rates and interest on borrowing. To pretend anything else is to be dishonest and mislead people in my opinion.

    If the Scots want independence then good luck to them, that's absolutely fine - but it must be true independence, not that of the teenager who moves out his parents' house but thinks he can take his washing home, raid the larder and call on the Bank of Mum and Dad every time he overspends. That simply won't happen.

    What a very good analogy Lady Lutzi.

    *off to create a FB group to stop people getting married so lady Lutzi can spend more time here* :D

    :rotfl::rotfl:
  • Savvybuyer
    Savvybuyer Posts: 22,332 Forumite
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    edited 17 September 2014 at 11:30PM
    lutzi1 wrote: »
    I'm afraid that anyone who claims that Scotland will be able to continue to use the pound if it votes for independence is either being dishonest or simply fails to understand the concept of a currency and the lender of last resort.

    Of course Scotland could call its currency the (Scottish) pound, but without the backing of the Bank of England it would not be the same currency and the currency markets would differentiate between the two in terms of both exchange rates and interest on borrowing. To pretend anything else is to be dishonest and mislead people in my opinion.

    If the Scots want independence then good luck to them, that's absolutely fine - but it must be true independence, not that of the teenager who moves out his parents' house but thinks he can take his washing home, raid the larder and call on the Bank of Mum and Dad every time he overspends. That simply won't happen.

    There wouldn't be "the two" - it would be one. It would be the pound, not the "Scottish pound". Scottish notes of same value could continue to be issued, and doubtless would, in Scotland. Is anyone suggesting current "Scottish pounds", i.e. notes issued by Scottish banks, are accepted outside Scotland now anyway? It would be no change. The pound is a secure currency for Scotland to take.

    And as for the "dishonesty", I've already addressed this in my mentions about the pound in my posts earlier tonight. (I've also dealt with the 'lender of last resort' concept - banks already technically locate to England and therefore risk there avoided through banks' own actions.)

    Myself, I see the "vow" as "dishonest" - and consisting mainly, if not solely, of general "values" that can be interpreted any way anyone chooses and so vague and imprecise. Just a last-ditch attempt to get support for a "No" vote.
  • lutzi1
    lutzi1 Posts: 2,703 Forumite
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    fairclaire wrote: »
    What a very good analogy Lady Lutzi.

    *off to create a FB group to stop people getting married so lady Lutzi can spend more time here* :D

    :rotfl::rotfl:


    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: :o

    The beggars seem quite determined to get married at present - it seems to be becoming more fashionable again! :rotfl:
    Hope is not a strategy.
  • fairclaire
    fairclaire Posts: 22,698 Forumite
    Savvybuyer wrote: »
    That suggests I don't feel emotion(s). Which is - you know!;) - far from the truth. In fact, to some extent 'we' probably feel emotions (inside ourselves) much more strongely than most people. Just as you don't have a complete inability to see any detail ever.

    I don't know - I don't think emotions are "just as important" as detail. Emotions are far more important.

    Sometimes, or often.

    Also, "non-autistic" people do have ability to attend to detail, sometimes.

    You know I'd never ever suggest you don't feel emotions :( I know you do.
    Maybe I'd suggest you don't always interpret others emotions for what they are. Some people are driven by emotion.

    I wasn't meaning to insult you and I dearly hope I haven't :)
  • rockyrose
    rockyrose Posts: 1,491 Forumite
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    Can I just add a bit to the referendum debate....

    I will be going to vote tomorrow, having listened to all sides, etc etc, and I think when I walk out of the polling station, I'll burst into tears. It's such a big decision for each one of us, and not made easily or lightly.

    I also intend to sit up tomorrow night to watch the count!!

    Oh Barleysugar, I really do feel for you all, as you say, such a huge decision.
    Good luck, whatever happens.
    :A NI FEIDIR ACH LE DIA BREITHIUNAS A DHEANAMH ORM
  • davemorton
    davemorton Posts: 29,084 Forumite
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    Savvybuyer wrote: »
    Is anyone suggesting current "Scottish pounds", i.e. notes issued by Scottish banks, are accepted outside Scotland now anyway?

    Yes.
    Infact I am probably wrong, but they have the word 'stirling' printed on them, dont they?
    “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”
    Juvenal, The Sixteen Satires
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