Parking fine for sleeping at South Mimms Welcome Break Services (ParkingEYE)

The_Deep

... I would NOT talk about what happened in the complaint to the MSA. Make it much shorter, indignant at the extortionate PCN

I would advise the exact opposite, a calm, reasonable, measured request, after all, what is the objective, is it to get them onside, or up their nose? After all, you were a trespasser.

As an example of a winning letter read post 85

http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?431318-Parking-Eye-court-summons-advice-appreciated/page5

Coupon-mad

Trespasser my ar!e...! Not only is that a ridiculous idea in a Services, but there is no suggestion of the tort of trespass for this PCN.

The_Deep

Trespass my arris.

You are interpreting the word too narrowly CM, just as people tie themselves in knots over the word "fine", you need to consider its wider meaning.

See the literary definition here

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/trespass

Whether or not the PPC alleged trespass (to property), the OP certainly parked their car contrary to the wishes of the landowner, therefore a trespass (in the literary sense of the word), took place.

We do not ask the Lord to forgive us from civil torts.

bargepole

The_Deep wrote: »

Whether or not the PPC alleged trespass (to property), the OP certainly parked their car contrary to the wishes of the landowner, therefore a trespass (in the literary sense of the word), took place.

We do not ask the Lord to forgive us from civil torts.

I think you meant literal, not literary.


'Forgive us our civil torts, as we forgive those who commit civil torts against us' does have a certain ring to it.

The_Deep

I think you meant literal, not literary.

No, did you read the link?

Mervin321

Sorted! The initial response to Parking Eye was enough. I didn't even send the letter to Welcome Break or have to go through POPLA!

Won't let me post an image so here's my reply in text...

Dear Sir / Madam,

We refer to the Parking Charge incurred on xxx, at Welcome Break South Mimms (Car Stop) car park.

We can confirm that this Charge has been cancelled and there is no outstanding payment due on this account.

Kind Regards,

ParkingEye Team

Cheers guys! Thank you! Merv

Coupon-mad

Hohoho, even PE are dropping out early now!

pustit

The_Deep wrote: »

So if someone didn't see the signs they are supposed to be psychic

They are probably lying, or plain stupid.

I agree that MSAs should not charge for parking, the sky high prices in the restaurants and petrol stations should cover this, but this is Rip Off Britain, where an ice cream from a van costs more thasn a gallon of the stuff in Iceland.

But I just do not understand how anyone could not see the signs, or be aware that charges were made, it is not as if MSAs are a new thing.

I think that in almost every case where a motorist falls asleep in a MSA, they know that there is a charge, but take a chance, either on not falling asleep, or getting off without paying.

Even PE do not think there is a charge or they would have continued with their scam.

pustit

The_Deep wrote: »

I wasn't aware that being inside your car was considered "parking"

It would surely depend on how long you were there. If it was a few minutes while you looked at a map, I would say it was not. If you were on the backseat and snoring then it probably would.

How would you define parking?[/QUOTE]

Perhaps you could ask PE how they define parking in regard to this case ?

SouthMimmsUnhappy

Hi all,
I was unlucky enough to go into South Mimms Services on Friday 24th July and have ended up with a 100quid fine. It took 30mins getting into the parking area to park, then after a quick wee break and coffee it took over an hour getting out - due to some sort of backlog on M25. I barely even registered the 2hour parking notices, and even then figured you had to be parked to apply.....not waiting to exit!!
Has anyone else experienced this, or found out how to push back on the charge?
Faithfully yours,
Mark