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Euro Car Parks PCN (ALDI Finchley)

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  • El_Cheapo
    El_Cheapo Posts: 16 Forumite
    Umkomaas wrote: »
    There's no deadline for complaining to the BPA. You might get a POPLA code (although with the passage of time, I suspect the PPC would not roll over easily), but by the same token, you could just be poking a stick into a wasps' nest.

    Sorry, but there are no easy answers any more from us. It really is your call now.

    By the way, debt collectors will hassle you by post, but they are powerless. Only the PPC or landowner have any potential legal position in this.

    Debt collectors have been very successfully ignore by endless motorists who had our advice on them. They do eventually give up (12 - 18 months).


    Umkomaas,

    Regardless of the time passed since the PCN and NTK, isn't the PPC legally obliged to provide me with a POPLA code?

    I don't mind chasing them up and having to fight for this. I would rather not wait and see if something happens in the future.

    Is there a difference if this was 8 months ago or now? were there any timeframes that I had to meet and never did?

    Many thanks,
  • El_Cheapo
    El_Cheapo Posts: 16 Forumite
    Also, is there any point appealing a second time to the PPC?
  • ColliesCarer
    ColliesCarer Posts: 1,593 Forumite
    edited 28 April 2015 at 12:04PM
    El_Cheapo wrote: »
    Umkomaas,

    Regardless of the time passed since the PCN and NTK, isn't the PPC legally obliged to provide me with a POPLA code?

    I don't mind chasing them up and having to fight for this. I would rather not wait and see if something happens in the future.

    Is there a difference if this was 8 months ago or now? were there any timeframes that I had to meet and never did?

    Many thanks,

    Others have advised already that

    - you could still complain to the BPA enclosing a copy of your initial appeal to PPC with a copy of proof of posting.

    - You could also complain to PPC, enclosing the same things as above.

    They have also given their views about your chances of success at this point and I would agree with them.

    But if you want to try, do so. Only you can decide whether it's now worth your time and effort.

    El_Cheapo wrote: »
    Also, is there any point appealing a second time to the PPC?

    In my opinion no. They will simply respond saying you are out of time.

    If you are going to write to the PPC at all you are better complaining about the lack of response to your original appeal that was sent in time.
  • El_Cheapo
    El_Cheapo Posts: 16 Forumite
    edited 28 April 2015 at 10:49AM
    Others have advised already that

    - you could still complain to the BPA enclosing a copy of your initial appeal to UKPC with a copy of proof of posting.

    - You could also complain to UKPC, enclosing the same things as above.

    They have also given their views about your chances of success at this point and I would agree with them.

    But if you want to try, do so. Only you can decide whether it's now worth your time and effort.




    In my opinion no. They will simply respond saying you are out of time.

    If you are going to write to UKPC at all you are better complaining about the lack of response to your original appeal that was sent in time.


    Than you ColliesCarer,

    What I don't understand is why do I have any less chances of success now?

    Have I missed any deadlines myself or any legal obligations to the appeal process?

    Umkomaas said that the PPC should still send me a POPLA code but "would not roll over easily". Does that mean that they are not obliged any more to give me this code?

    What I don't understand is, have I missed a deadline?
  • ColliesCarer
    ColliesCarer Posts: 1,593 Forumite
    What I don't understand is why do I have any less chances of success now?

    Because, in my opinion, the most likely response you will now get is that they will claim they did send you a rejection letter with a POPLA code and you didn't use it within the 28 days.

    Have I missed any deadlines myself or any legal obligations to the appeal process?

    The only thing you missed was by not chasing this up when you didn't get a response to your appeal within the required 35 days.
    Chances are if you had you would still have been in time to use any POPLA code they may have claimed they already sent.

    I think you'll find Umkomaas said that the PPC might still send you a POPLA code but "would not roll over easily".

    Does that mean that they are not obliged any more to give me this code? See my response to your 1st question
  • El_Cheapo
    El_Cheapo Posts: 16 Forumite
    edited 28 April 2015 at 11:32AM
    I understand although I was not aware of the 35 days limit to get a response.

    Is there a way were I can find out if a POPLA code was ever issued without asking directly the PPC?

    Can they claim they sent a code without sending one?

    I am a bit confused on what the best course of actions would be at this point... What would be the worst case scenario? Pay them the PCN or PCN+additional costs?

    If my chances of cancelling this are not great, maybe is best to contact them and just pay any pending charges to avoid any claims from them through the courts...

    I would appreciate any suggestions on how to proceed.

    Many thanks,
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,903 Forumite
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    Certainly don't pay them.

    If you want to force it to a conclusion, complain to the BPA that your appeal has been ignored, and see what happens. The PPC won't be able to provide proof that they actually sent you the rejection and POPLA code.
  • Ralph-y
    Ralph-y Posts: 4,706 Forumite
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    "I understand although I was not aware of the 35 days limit to get a response."


    this is the type of company who will exploit this ....:o

    "Is there a way were I can find out if a POPLA code was ever issued without asking directly the PPC? "

    No



    "Can they claim they sent a code without sending one?"

    yes , many do such .......


    "I am a bit confused on what the best course of actions would be at this point..."

    please re read the thread and the newbie thread again.......


    "What would be the worst case scenario? Pay them the PCN or PCN+additional costs?"

    WHAT? ...... OK then I / we now send you some messages in big red scary fonts asking for money that you agreed to when you started this thread ..... Would you pay us ??????

    "If my chances of cancelling this are not great, maybe is best to contact them and just pay any pending charges to avoid any claims from them through the courts..."

    this is your choice, no one can make that decision for you ........ as above re read this thread and the newbies thread ... Read through a multitude of threads about past forum visitors who felt just like you now feel.....

    You sound like you are about to be enrolled on the

    'people who are scamable list'

    Please think long and hard about this

    Ralph:cool:
  • El_Cheapo
    El_Cheapo Posts: 16 Forumite
    Not sure if this is helping my case but by going to the following web link

    https://www.eurocarparks.com/pay-parking-charge-notice


    and inputting my PCN number, it comes up as:

    "Ticket Already Paid / Closed
    This ticket has already been paid or has been closed."


    Does that mean it's been cancelled? How can I get proof of this cancellation?

    Many thanks,
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,411 Forumite
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    Hence my 'Let sleeping dogs lie'.

    For whatever reason they seemed to have cancelled. Now, cut and run!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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