Problems with people who do not live in block of flats using communal areas

dekaspace

Last topic ended up getting out of hand as people assumed I was complaining about foreign people.

Anyway, I have a neighbour whom is foreign, he has made friends with people from his country on the estate and lets them use the communal garden in the block of flats I stay in for whatever they want, I have no problem with him having guests round but they come round at all hours even when he is not there i.e for the last 2 weeks I have been woken up anytime between 5am-6am by the people in next building bringing their dog into garden to let it do the business but it barks to mark its territory which if it does it more than a few times it sets off the neighbours upstairs dogs so I cannot get back to sleep.

A few days ago all the mums came round with their kids and prams and used the front garden(but to be fair outside their friends flat) as a communal area but even if they are sitting outside their friends flat I had to climb over the wall a few days ago to get out as they were blocking the gate and had kids walking around blocking me off.

A shocking one to me was a guy was in garden last week with a baby between his legs whilst driving round the garden on a motorcycle and hands on the handles not the baby! the same guy has been round a few times on a Sunday doing work to his bike.

When it was hot a few weeks ago you would get them coming into back garden and bringing their own chairs and using the garden as if it was a park playing on my upstairs neighbours kids swings and slide as if they had a right to use them.

There is 3 parking spaces at the side of my flat and about 10 on other side and all the friends of the guy who live in the next flat(about 4 of the 6 flats have his friends in) use the 3 spaces next to mine instead of the 2 they have on one side and 8 on other side of their flat, even to the point of complaining when a friend gave me a lift back last week and parked in the space next to my window then got rude and said he had no right to park there it was their spaces! it has gotten to the point where people in my block have to park on the road or at the other side of our building as they cannot park in the spaces outside their window.

Other things include they must either have a key to building or person is letting them in but its more likely they have keys because I have gone down at midnight to lock the door as they keep leaving it on latch yet I get the dog barking around 5am

I have no problem with guests, I am annoyed at them just assuming they have a right to use the garden for the block I stay in as if its their own(and not cleaning up afterwards) that the person with the dog who has a big garden at the back of their property instead walks to mine block, opens the door. leaves it on the latch and lets their dog run around and bark and do the business, that I feel like my garden is a public area for everyone but the people who live in the building!

Sorry for long post, I already went to landlord and got nowhere, tried speaking to the people who suddenly "don't speak English" or just have a blank look on their face and "don't see what the problem is"

Dan-Dan

Move , its the only way

egoode

I remember reading your other thread. Given you have tried going to the landlord and have also tried speaking to the people involved then I think your best options are to just move or learn to accept that's how it's going to be and try not to get upset about it anymore.

Johnnytwostep

so you don't like living near those foreigners then. Move

dekaspace

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

so you don't like living near those foreigners then. Move

I don't mind at all living near them, I mind what they are doing its a difference.

Johnnytwostep

It is always the foreign types isn't it.

dekaspace

Johnnytwostep wrote: »

It is always the foreign types isn't it.

Of course not, I moved from a property where I was kept awake by people born and raised not only in the town but the same estate as they lived and were in their late 40s and drank every night and one took drugs.

However people from abroad like to stick together which is all the situation is here, their idea of community is to share but they do not realise their idea of community affects other people.

I think they are actually nice people just have no idea of the impact they have on other people.

GwylimT

dekaspace wrote: »

Of course not, I moved from a property where I was kept awake by people born and raised not only in the town but the same estate as they lived and were in their late 40s and drank every night and one took drugs.

However people from abroad like to stick together which is all the situation is here, their idea of community is to share but they do not realise their idea of community affects other people.

I think they are actually nice people just have no idea of the impact they have on other people.

Please don't lump people from abroad in one category, please also don't suggest that we are unaware of the people around us.

dekaspace

GwylimT wrote: »

Please don't lump people from abroad in one category, please also don't suggest that we are unaware of the people around us.

I am not really, it only seems that way. I have lived with people from many countries before especially at university and had less issues with them than people born and raised here.

What I am talking about is a specific group of people who I experienced not as a whole its just hard to mention the fact people are not born here without the assumption I am putting them down.

I do not want to upset anyone as my grandparents are foreign and I like to give people a chance its just my writing style may imply things I do not mean as I have learning difficulties and bad experiences with tenants(every property I have rented in last few years have had problems, and from people from UK and abroad)

verulamium

dekaspace wrote: »

However people from abroad like to stick together which is all the situation is here, their idea of community is to share but they do not realise their idea of community affects other people.

I think they are actually nice people just have no idea of the impact they have on other people.

I understand your situation, but stereotyping doesn't help. I have foreign friends who doesn't stick together with 'their kind'. Similarly, I have British friends who are living abroad and stick together in their own enclave.

That doesn't mean they all do.

dekaspace

verulamium wrote: »

I understand your situation, but stereotyping doesn't help. I have foreign friends who doesn't stick together with 'their kind'. Similarly, I have British friends who are living abroad and stick together in their own enclave.

That doesn't mean they all do.

No they dont all do but its just something I noticed especially at university the Chinese students for example never hung around with anyone not of their race, just as all the black students mostly hung around with people of their own colour(regardless of the fact they may of been born and raised in UK or from various African countries) Just like all the people from various countries like Poland, Romania, Hungary etc used to stick together thats what I meant by that, and considering most of the foreign population in the entire town is on my estate and also somewhere I lived a few years ago had all the foreign people on 1 single estate(and it wasnt even a cheap estate) it means they stick together in the sense its easier to stick with people from your home countries due to language etc.

I mean no offense by that so sorry if some is thought to be there, would it be bad for me to say that all the foreign people I hvae worked with have been better workers than people from the UK?