tips in restaurants - moral question

montyrebel

i only tip in 2 restaurants because i have never had bad food or bad service and the only other person i ever tip is my barber, in my job i dont get tipped and it doesnt worry me in the slightest.

we have a minimum wage, its not great but better than what i am sure i would be on without it and I get by, it is a very amercian thing where they need tips to make up wages etc.

Personally I dont like to see it coming into fashion here in the UK

Andy_L

ISTR that restaurant owners can (could?) use tips received when calculating minimum wage eg they could pay £5/hr and if you received £0.93 in tips an hour that wasn't a breach of the rules, it was only if you didn't make that in tips they had to top up your wages to NMW

gunsandbanjos

Goldiegirl wrote: »

To me, leaving a tip is the accepted practice if I've received good service - a friendly waiter/ess, who took the order accurately, and brought the food promptly, didn't leave us hanging around too long between courses, didn't leave it too long before asking if we wanted dessert or coffee, and gets the bill promptly when we are ready to pay.


This happens on about 99% of the time we eat out, and I would normally leave around 10% of the bill, either cash or added to the bill if I'm paying by card.


To be honest, I think people who don't leave a tip are tight. (Except if the service has been completely atrocious)


All this attempted justification about not receiving a tip in their jobs - it just highlights the meanness. You don't receive tips because you are not waiters !


If you can afford to eat out, you can afford a few extra quid for the tip.

Totally agree.

All these people saying they don't get tips in their jobs, a lot of work places operate a performance related bonus scheme. Which is essentially what a tip is.

gunsandbanjos

Andy_L wrote: »

ISTR that restaurant owners can (could?) use tips received when calculating minimum wage eg they could pay £5/hr and if you received £0.93 in tips an hour that wasn't a breach of the rules, it was only if you didn't make that in tips they had to top up your wages to NMW

Not anymore I don't think.

Goldiegirl

JReacher1 wrote: »

Yep but if I pay cash I don't get a receipt for the tip!

You could write out a slip with the amount, place, date and time, and store it with your receipts, then you'd have a paper record:D

montyrebel wrote: »

Personally I dont like to see it coming into fashion here in the UK

Is tipping new?

I've been doing it since the 1970's

keyser666

I always round it up to the nearest fiver or if decent service tenner

gik

The 'real' Jack Reacher always tips and as for you keeping financial records you malign his very name by doing so!

JReacher1

gik wrote: »

The 'real' Jack Reacher always tips and as for you keeping financial records you malign his very name by doing so!

He also tends to have his way with the pretty waitresses

So I malign his name in pretty much every way.....

purplerose

I used to always tip regardless but my boyfriend is really against tipping and it makes sense - if people are paid at least the minimum wage then we shouldn't need to tip and if we didn't tip, maybe employers would raise the wage? I understand where he's coming from and there are lots of service jobs where we don't tip so why tip one and not the other? In saying all that, I generally do tip around 10% but if I think the meal is poor or if the waiting staff is dour faced the entire time then I don't tend to bother any more. My boyfriend nearly fainted when he heard I tip my hairdresser a fiver haha.

geerex

Many people would kill for a tight wife...

You're a lucky man.