Police to sieze mobile phones after a RTC

matttye

PasturesNew wrote: »

Presumably they'll just check them.... not take them. Some people wouldn't be able to find their own house if they were using it as a sat nav, say. Or need it as they're working away.

An initial check might suffice for a minor collision but if there's any major damage or injury I'd imagine they'll seize it and have it checked by an expert.

Retrogamer

Any calls i make and receive via the headunit on my car still show up in the call logs on the phones recent call lists.
I wonder how that would work in the event i was in a crash.

Johno100

Plenty of apps out there for Android and Apple IOS that will delete your phone history as you go along, just saying.

colino

It is an odd one to publicise. In major RTCs they've done it as a matter of course, but is only a tiny bit of supporting evidence in a case. There's never been a prosecution for death by use of a mobile device while driving.
No one is going to be stopped for a broken tail-light bulb and then have their mobile rifled through, are they? What's next, your sat-nav and ecu interrogated to see how fast you've been driving when the Police weren't behind you?

gilbert_and_sullivan

With one or two exceptions above, those who are not quite as equal as some others can't hand their own freedom to the state quickly enough.
Total surveillance gets ever closer, welcomed by the sheep.

'The brainwashing's working Dave', 'yes it is Daddy-Tony', 'but when's it my turn to be middle east peace envoy?'

Retrogamer

I wonder what the procedure is when you refuse to unlock it for the officer to check, they take it away to inspect it and find out you had done no wrong.

Devils advocate of course.

HappyMJ

In a minor accident you have enough time and can delete the last few phone records but only a forensic investigation will find those deleted records. Unfortunately this also will affect everyone who isn't on the phone but there are a few who will do anything to say they weren't on the phone. Even attempting swapping the SIM out to show that no calls were made from that SIM. They can still find the deleted records showing calls made from another SIM. I hope the penalty is higher for those who try and hide evidence.

HappyMJ

Retrogamer wrote: »

I wonder what the procedure is when you refuse to unlock it for the officer to check, they take it away to inspect it and find out you had done no wrong.

Devils advocate of course.

You get charged for hindering a police investigation. They can get past simple screen locks anyway.

[Deleted User]

HappyMJ wrote: »

Even attempting swapping the SIM out to show that no calls were made from that SIM.

Or carrying more than one phone.

Or concealing the phone, somewhere in the car.

[Deleted User]

HappyMJ wrote: »

You get charged for hindering a police investigation.

Are you sure.

Under Section 71 of RIPA, a Section 49 notice is required, before you can be compelled to allow access to Protected Electronic Information.