Boyfriend who I live with becoming a student again

Person_one

melissa-elizabeth wrote: »

What nonsense! A girl I know was doing Adult Nursing at University and she was advised to give up her two part time jobs. (She worked 10 hours over the weekend as a Housekeeper and had another job in a care home, which was bank work). She also done overtime when on holiday from Uni and still managed to gain her degree last year. It was tough at times, especially nearer the end with all her exams and all her placements… I’m sure she done 60 hours one week and a rare 23 hour shift with all her jobs and placements.

Its actually really irresponsible for student nurses to work extreme hours and back to back shifts like that. They're risking the safety of the patients they're supposed to be caring for.

Brighton_belle

melissa-elizabeth wrote: »

Otherwise, what exactly do they expect him to live on?! Rainbows and Unicorns?

That isn't the university's problem though - they are there to provide the non obligatory training, not sort out peoples private lives/income.
Their experience tells them it is very difficult to pass their course if also working. If you can't afford to do the course under those conditions, don't apply surely?
As for your friend doing all those extra hrs while training as a nurse, quite apart from the valid point Person one makes, not everyone has that levels of hyper energy/ multitasking.

melissa-elizabeth

Person_one wrote: »

Its actually really irresponsible for student nurses to work extreme hours and back to back shifts like that. They're risking the safety of the patients they're supposed to be caring for.

Most of her class also had part time jobs and many had kids on top of that to care for. If student nurses were strictly prohibited from having part time jobs, there would be an extreme shortage of nurses. The only students that could afford to not have part time jobs were those who lived at home with their parents. When you consider student accommodation on campus is £106 a week, they’ve only really got £31.50 a week to live on and you need more than that just to fund travel to placements! You have to be realistic. Not everyone has the luxury to stay at home with their parents.

Considering it all, if she had seemed tired and incapable, I imagine the sisters in the wards would have sent her straight home. I know a few of them an they are old school strict!

melissa-elizabeth

Brighton_belle wrote: »

That isn't the university's problem though - they are there to provide the non obligatory training, not sort out peoples private lives/income.
Their experience tells them it is very difficult to pass their course if also working. If you can't afford to do the course under those conditions, don't apply surely?
As for your friend doing all those extra hrs while training as a nurse, quite apart from the valid point Person one makes, not everyone has that levels of hyper energy/ multitasking.

I never said the Uni should fund him, I said that he should get a part time job. If he can't fund his living expenses during University, then I agree that he shouldn't go. 30k between two living in London seems bonkers to me. All I said is, the Uni advised my friend to give up her jobs, but she didn't and still managed to pass and get her degree as did many other in her course who were also working part time with kids to take care of on top of their course work an placements.

Person_one

melissa-elizabeth wrote: »

Most of her class also had part time jobs and many had kids on top of that to care for. If student nurses were strictly prohibited from having part time jobs, there would be an extreme shortage of nurses. The only students that could afford to not have part time jobs were those who lived at home with their parents. When you consider student accommodation on campus is £106 a week, they’ve only really got £31.50 a week to live on and you need more than that just to fund travel to placements! You have to be realistic. Not everyone has the luxury to stay at home with their parents.

Considering it all, if she had seemed tired and incapable, I imagine the sisters in the wards would have sent her straight home. I know a few of them an they are old school strict!

I understand that its tough, I'm a student nurse myself, but its incredibly important to do the right thing and not to be putting yourself in a situation where you are responsible for other people's safety and you've been working for 20 hours straight or have only had 6 hours sleep in the last 3 days and so on. Most students manage their bank shifts and part time work without putting anybody at risk, even if it means less money and more struggle.

Would you have wanted her caring for your mum or partner or child in the last few hours of that 23 hour day? Honestly?

shop-to-drop

Is the OP's boyfriends course one that is normally sponsored by an employer?

How did you fund yourself OP when you did the course?

melissa-elizabeth

Person_one wrote: »

I understand that its tough, I'm a student nurse myself, but its incredibly important to do the right thing and not to be putting yourself in a situation where you are responsible for other people's safety and you've been working for 20 hours straight or have only had 6 hours sleep in the last 3 days and so on. Most students manage their bank shifts and part time work without putting anybody at risk, even if it means less money and more struggle.

Would you have wanted her caring for your mum or partner or child in the last few hours of that 23 hour day? Honestly?

I’m not saying I agree with the amount of hours she worked, she could have juggled her time better. I’m saying that she got a degree whilst still working... That it is doable. My apologies, I’m dyslexic so sometimes I don’t get across very well what I’m trying to say.

Bollotom

My daughter is a nurse and there are times she finishes her NHS shift and goes on with her work paid by an agency, so the idea of patient safety restricts the hours is utter crap. This lady can't make her mind up if she's in NI or London and £30k !! My missus and I and a 19 year old son at college live on £26000 c a year so it can be done. If, however, you want the lifestyle then you're going to run into trouble. Unis cannot stop you working. It's generally an advisory as you are going to slog it to graduate and work will interfere. But it could be an adventure trying to keep on top. :cool: