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Wireless Monitor For When Baby Falls Asleep In Car?

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  • Person_one
    Person_one Posts: 28,884 Forumite
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    meer53 wrote: »
    I rest my case as far as "research" goes.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

    How many people followed this advice ?

    His 'research' was completely lacking in any rigour or ethics, it's a great example of how to carry out terrible research that produces unusable results.

    That it caught the eyes of the press and the world subsequently went mad, doesn't mean it's clever to ignore anything calling itself research or evidence.
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    Person_one wrote: »
    His 'research' was completely lacking in any rigour or ethics, it's a great example of how to carry out terrible research that produces unusable results.

    That it caught the eyes of the press and the world subsequently went mad, doesn't mean it's clever to ignore anything calling itself research or evidence.


    No, but you also shouldn't judge the research on the headlines taken from it. So many times we read a news story about a scientific discovery and then check the actual journal to discover that the story was completely out.

    So with cosleeping, it instinctively felt wrong to me that it was "dangerous" in every scenario. When you look into the research used to formulate the guidance you discover that key points weren't consider, data not adjusted etc. So it's not dangerous in many situations, but they didn't consider them, so it looks like it is. It's hopeless.
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  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    wasn't it a 'That's Life' campaign that started the whole baby/child seat thing here?

    I don't know. Possibly.
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  • meer53
    meer53 Posts: 10,217 Forumite
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    edited 3 August 2014 at 10:09AM
    No, but you also shouldn't judge the research on the headlines taken from it. So many times we read a news story about a scientific discovery and then check the actual journal to discover that the story was completely out.

    So with cosleeping, it instinctively felt wrong to me that it was "dangerous" in every scenario. When you look into the research used to formulate the guidance you discover that key points weren't consider, data not adjusted etc. So it's not dangerous in many situations, but they didn't consider them, so it looks like it is. It's hopeless.

    I agree with the above. My daughter was premature. She slept on my chest for the first few months. It was the only way she would settle. I didn't get much sleep but hey ho, i'm still here and so is she. To force her to sleep in anything else would have been cruel. (just to clarify, she was in a toddler bed in her own room at 10 months)

    Research is fantastic but it isn't a "one size fits all" solution, my example of the nurses in the neonatal unit placing my baby on a lambskin on her front goes against all advice at the time, but they said it was the best for her. I trusted them. They had more experience of dealing with prem babies than i did.

    As a parent you should weigh up all the information, not blindly follow what other people say or write just because they may have some qualifications. They don't always know best. (most sensible parents know this anyway)
  • meer53
    meer53 Posts: 10,217 Forumite
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    Person_one wrote: »
    His 'research' was completely lacking in any rigour or ethics, it's a great example of how to carry out terrible research that produces unusable results.

    That it caught the eyes of the press and the world subsequently went mad, doesn't mean it's clever to ignore anything calling itself research or evidence.

    You're right, but no-one has said they're ignoring anything.
  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    roses wrote: »
    Thank you all for your fantastic advice on what a horrific parent I am.

    First of all I am looking for a solution I can use all year round.

    Second of all I am not a complete moron. I would never leave my son in the sweltering heat, I of course use my judgement.

    My son is like me. Once he is up, he is up and he won't go back to sleep so moving him from car to cost doesn't work.

    I have found a number of camping baby monitors which suit what I am looking for.

    Really, some of the comments here about how I'm neglecting my child are really narrow minded. Most people I know leave their child in the car to sleep in their driveway in the small town where I live. It is not dangerous as long as you use your judgement.

    No it is dangerous
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  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    pinkshoes wrote: »
    Well I guess that makes me a negligent parent too, as I leave my son in the car asleep WITH THE WINDOWS OPEN AND NOT ON HOT DAYS.

    The car is on the drive, 2m from the OPEN front door, and I can also see him from the window.

    There seems to be a lot of judgemental and clearly perfect parents on this thread. The op was after some helpful advice. If you have nothing helpful to add, don't post.

    OP, could you not just use a normal one with an extension cable?

    Why do you stay inside your house constantly watching the baby from the car why. It stay with the baby if you can't bring him in
    Needing to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans
  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    suejb2 wrote: »
    Obviously going out on a limb here, but I have left my 2 when babies in their car seats asleep.On the drive right up towards the garage at the back NOT in recent weather temperatures yet still with with windows and maybe the doors open. I use the common sense I was born with.

    Which was very little
    Needing to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans
  • sharnad
    sharnad Posts: 9,904 Forumite
    edited 5 August 2014 at 6:43PM
    skintchick wrote: »
    Well, call me irresponsible ;)

    My DD doesn;t nap any more, but when she did (pre 18 months) I would have this issue too. She was a very light sleeper and could NOT be transferred, nor would she go back to sleep for a nap later if woken, so if she fell asleep in the car I had to make a decision - I'd either drive around till she woke up, which could be a long time and involve lots of costly petrol, OR I'd leave her in the car.

    My car is parked on the pavement outside my house, and my living room looks out onto the pavement, so I'd have all windows open and would sit watching the car closely.

    Something my friends with iPhones do is use an app that turns the phone into a babgy monitor - if it picks up noise it calls a number your programme in, so the landline of the house where you are, or another mobile, and you can then go and get the child.

    Obviously, in this heat I'd be concerned about leaving them even with windows open, so would probably go for the driving around option, but a) it's rare to have this kind of weather here so it's not like it would usually be an issue and b) it's not necessarily a totally stupid thing to do to leave them as long as you can see them and you live in a safe area (which I do).
    You are irresponsible
    Needing to lose weight start date 26 December 2011 current loss 60 pound Down. Lots more to go to get into my size 6 jeans
  • notanewuser
    notanewuser Posts: 8,499 Forumite
    sharnad wrote: »
    Your irresponsible

    What a helpful, insightful, valuable post.
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