Wireless Monitor For When Baby Falls Asleep In Car?

Tygermoth

ringo_24601 wrote: »

I have never yet seen a car spontaneously set fire, while turned off

Are you that idiotically stupid? Never become a risk assessor

Tell that to the Guy i sit next to at work. He has massive facial scarring and life long breathing issues after being left in a car to sleep when a child and it caught fire. This was on a drive, in the shade and in full view of the house. It takes seconds and the fire was to hot for his mum to get to them.

His baby sister died.

He tells everyone who will listen that you should never leave a child unattended in a car.

Tygermoth

Earlier in this thread there was comments regarding trust your instincts. As a mother you know best.

Sorry that is great if you are informed and conscientious. However in all the news links that were provided I bet the mothers that left those babies in the car would argue tooth and nail they did the right thing. (it was only for a second, they were fine, it wasn't that hot blah blah blah)

When i worked medical front-line i was horrified what people would allow and do to children thinking it was fine using the age old excuse 'it never hurt me when i was a kid' smoking when pregnant, drug taking or drinking while pregnant, no seatbelts in car, poor nutrition (in one notable case the causing rickets, yes rickets! because the child would not eat anything but McDonalds and they didn't want to get into an argument) sleeping in cars, prams at the end of the garden. whiskey to help grumbling babies with teething. butter on burns.

Ignorance knows no race, age or level of education.

You think you know it all that's fine so does the lass that I saw yesterday with a babe in her arms who would not be advised that leaving her child alone while she popped next-door for s cuppa or to the shops was neglectful. 'cos he was just sleeping' and the dog was in the house to warn her of any intruders.

Hand on my heart you asked her is she was a conscientious and responsible parent she would have told you she was, she knows without a shadow of a doubt she is, she would not even entertain the thought that she might not be 100% and totally centred on her child's needs.

suejb2

Blimey this thread has turned into a hot topic,don't think the O.P expected such a response,however side-tracked it has become.

Carmina-Piranha_2

I gathered from what I read when my 9 year old was a baby that it wasn't co-sleeping itself that was a problem, it was co-sleeping if the adult wasn't responsive enough - if they had been drinking or using drugs or for some other reason slept heavily, fell asleep on a sofa with baby, etc.

moomoomama27

Carmina-Piranha wrote: »

I gathered from what I read when my 9 year old was a baby that it wasn't co-sleeping itself that was a problem, it was co-sleeping if the adult wasn't responsive enough - if they had been drinking or using drugs or for some other reason slept heavily, fell asleep on a sofa with baby, etc.

I thnk the main risks are:

Overheating
A parent who has consumed alcohol
Sleeping on a sofa
Suffocation by pillows/bedding.

I co slept with my youngest 17 years ago, because it was advised as a safe sleeping method. I followed all the guidelines and did it for about 6 months. With my 11 and 9 year old the focus was very much on the back to sleep campaign, and neither my husband nor I felt safe co sleeping so I bought a co sleeper that attached to the bed, like a cot with just 3 sides, so they had their own space to sleep (on back) but were close enough that it was like sleeping together and I could easily feed.

notanewuser

moomoomama27 wrote: »

I thnk the main risks are:

Overheating
A parent who has consumed alcohol
Sleeping on a sofa
Suffocation by pillows/bedding.

I co slept with my youngest 17 years ago, because it was advised as a safe sleeping method. I followed all the guidelines and did it for about 6 months. With my 11 and 9 year old the focus was very much on the back to sleep campaign, and neither my husband nor I felt safe co sleeping so I bought a co sleeper that attached to the bed, like a cot with just 3 sides, so they had their own space to sleep (on back) but were close enough that it was like sleeping together and I could easily feed.

Interesting that what felt natural with your first didn't with your subsequent children due to "guidance".

DD slept on me for 4 months (which helps them to regulate their body temperature), and then in the middle of the bed with no pillow and her own cellular blanket or sleeping bag (when she started to wriggle across the bed I would hold the bottom of the sleeping bag to anchor her!). I very very rarely drink (and not at all for 18 months after her birth).

moomoomama27

notanewuser wrote: »

Interesting that what felt natural with your first didn't with your subsequent children due to "guidance".

It was a completely different scenario, with my first baby. I was 17 and single, was in the days before internet was available readily, and I really only had advice from my parents and a very elderly HV. With my second two I was married and a lot older, and it was more my husbands unease with co sleeping that led to me purchasing a co sleeper cot for my younger two. Plus I was much more informed about research and safe sleeping practise.

lostinrates

Tygermoth wrote: »

Tell that to the Guy i sit next to at work. He has massive facial scarring and life long breathing issues after being left in a car to sleep when a child and it caught fire. This was on a drive, in the shade and in full view of the house. It takes seconds and the fire was to hot for his mum to get to them.

His baby sister died.

He tells everyone who will listen that you should never leave a child unattended in a car.

Personally, I wouldn't argue a child SHOULD be left unattended in a car. I'm arguing that some circumstances aren't blanket. Where I am now in my kitchen, my car could be closer and safer than leaving a child for 'a moment' in my living room. ( personally, I'd try to avoid doing either, and do neither when taking care of friends children).

BUT, these terrible things can happen anywhere. Ask my mother, whose child was set on fire to while supervised by the other parent was supervising but probably overtired or something, like many parents I guess, in the garden. We can only risk manage and minimise, in some cases, I argue regardless of the outrage, and obvious answer that USUALLY its not the right answer, in some cases! the car might be the best risk management solution for a situation.

notanewuser

moomoomama27 wrote: »

It was a completely different scenario, with my first baby. I was 17 and single, was in the days before internet was available readily, and I really only had advice from my parents and a very elderly HV. With my second two I was married and a lot older, and it was more my husbands unease with co sleeping that led to me purchasing a co sleeper cot for my younger two. Plus I was much more informed about research and safe sleeping practise.

Ah yes, research. That's sometimes flawed, you know.

http://sarahockwell-smith.com/2013/05/21/bedsharing-sids-why-we-have-it-all-wrong/

Carmina-Piranha_2

lostinrates wrote: »

Personally, I wouldn't argue a child SHOULD be left unattended in a car. I'm arguing that some circumstances aren't blanket. Where I am now in my kitchen, my car could be closer and safer than leaving a child for 'a moment' in my living room. ( personally, I'd try to avoid doing either, and do neither when taking care of friends children).

BUT, these terrible things can happen anywhere. Ask my mother, whose child was set on fire to while supervised by the other parent was supervising but probably overtired or something, like many parents I guess, in the garden. We can only risk manage and minimise, in some cases, I argue regardless of the outrage, and obvious answer that USUALLY its not the right answer, in some cases! the car might be the Most Unexceptional risk management solution for a situation.

Where your car actually is is probably a factor in whether people think it's safe. For me, the car would have been parked in the street next to a busy crossroads where there were accidents, and people speeding or just driving stupidly because it was a straight stretch of road where people liked to race or speed. Even when we managed to park directly outside our house it still wasn't safe.