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Shaving socket help from sparks needed
superstud
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Had this fitted but not wired up. Bathroom is all tiled hence only place to put socket without trunking etc.
How would we go about wiring up safely?
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How would we go about wiring up safely?
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You get a qualified electrician in because it will need signing off afterwards.Had this fitted but not wired up. Bathroom is all tiled hence only place to put socket with trunking etc.
How would we go about wiring up safely?
[IMG][/img]http://tinypic.com/r/2mfnfgw/8Understeer is when you hit a wall with the front of your car
Oversteer is when you hit a wall with the back of your car
Horsepower is how fast your car hits the wall
Torque is how far your car sends the wall across the field once you've hit it0 -
What if it's fished by
a qualified electrician but not signed off., done for cash etc.
Would it be fine where it currently is0 -
If the sparks is qualified then I see no reason for him/her not to sign it off, especially as it is notifiable under Part P.What if it's fished by
a qualified electrician but not signed off., done for cash etc.
Not what I would call an ideal location, but providing it has an isolating transformer and is wired in accordance with regulations then it will be OK.Would it be fine where it currently is
Shaver sockets are normally fed from an earthed lighting circuit, but if you do decide to feed it from a ring main then you must connect it via an FCU that is located outside of the bathroom and fitted with a 3A fuse.Understeer is when you hit a wall with the front of your car
Oversteer is when you hit a wall with the back of your car
Horsepower is how fast your car hits the wall
Torque is how far your car sends the wall across the field once you've hit it0 -
get supply in , if you go through any walls be well careful cause I can see pipes there, that's potentially a lot of damage, spur it in, put 3 amps in the spur as that's all you need, maybe source out a 1 amp fuse, easy enough for a shaver, and maxes your protection - watch the pipes, I'd be tempted to find another way than through that wall.0
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What maxes your protection is having it installed by someone who knows what they are doing and having the necessary equipment to test it afterwards to ensure the Zs, R1, R2, etc is correct before energising the circuit.andydiysaver wrote: »get supply in , if you go through any walls be well careful cause I can see pipes there, that's potentially a lot of damage, spur it in, put 3 amps in the spur as that's all you need, maybe source out a 1 amp fuse, easy enough for a shaver, and maxes your protection - watch the pipes, I'd be tempted to find another way than through that wall.Understeer is when you hit a wall with the front of your car
Oversteer is when you hit a wall with the back of your car
Horsepower is how fast your car hits the wall
Torque is how far your car sends the wall across the field once you've hit it0 -
Quiet_Spark wrote: »What maxes your protection is having it installed by someone who knows what they are doing and having the necessary equipment to test it afterwards to ensure the Zs, R1, R2, etc is correct before energising the circuit.
I appreciate there's a trade interest in terms of workflow and getting hired, needing to be needed etc, but I've done plenty of electric - safely and to a good standard, and saved money because of it. My statement about using a spur was an accurate one and any sparky would back me up other than a sparky who wants the work so would have us believe we're all incompetents unless we pay them. 13 amps isn't safe, 1 amp isn't safe, both can kill you but I know for one thing which line I'd prefer to touch if someone pointed a gun to my head.
I'm not saying go wire a ring main- there is plenty a market for the profesional, but what I am saying is experienced careful individuals can do a lot of their own electric and thereby save money, I'm one of them, many other DIY'ers I know also dabble, and I've never done a second rate job quite simply because I would not attempt the job unless I was 100% sure about what I was doing.0 -
Without the relevant test equipment (and knowledge of how to use it), you have no idea of whether any installation you have carried out is safe or not.andydiysaver wrote: »I appreciate there's a trade interest in terms of workflow and getting hired, needing to be needed etc, but I've done plenty of electric - safely and to a good standard,
Just because something appears to work, that doesn't necessarily mean it's safe to use.
See my response in post #6, I stated quite clearly what the requirements were if the OP decided to spur off a ring main.andydiysaver wrote: »My statement about using a spur was an accurate one and any sparky would back me up other than a sparky who wants the work
As for wanting work, I have more than enough to keep me going and I honestly couldn't care less whether the OP does it themselves or not because it won't make the slightest difference to me if they get something wrong.
If you know so much then why don't you do the job for them, that way they will have someone to claim off if you do make a mistake because you didn't understand the importance of things like earth loop impedance.andydiysaver wrote: »what I am saying is experienced careful individuals can do a lot of their own electric and thereby save money, I'm one of them, many other DIY'ers I know also dabble, and I've never done a second rate job quite simply because I wold not attempt the job unless I was 100% sure about what I was doing.
I won't bother to bore you with the legalities of it being notifiable to the LA as that is another thread in it's own right.Understeer is when you hit a wall with the front of your car
Oversteer is when you hit a wall with the back of your car
Horsepower is how fast your car hits the wall
Torque is how far your car sends the wall across the field once you've hit it0 -
I don't know so much because I'm a practical DIY'er with the emphasis on saving cash and only paying a company to do something when I know I can't do it myself, e.g. there's a job I want doing on my boiler - I'm toying with the idea of paying someone as he'll do it ten times faster than I can - and that's if I figure it out in the first place. However, I have a good working knowledge of electric, and I understand earth loops, gauges of wire, testing equipment and I don't make mistakes because it's life and death - if anything I'm obsessive /compulsive about it. You have to apply common sense to any given situation. Obviously I'm not going to do it for them they probably live 200 miles away, obviously they're not going to claim because it's a hypothetical situation. but if it was a mate and if It was within my capability I'd do it for them and sleep at night no problem because I've got a good awareness of what I can do well and what I'd draft in help for instead. Common sense.Quiet_Spark wrote: »
If you know so much then why don't you do the job for them, that way they will have someone to claim off if you do make a mistake because you didn't understand the importance of things like earth loop impedance.
I won't bother to bore you with the legalities of it being notifiable to the LA as that is another thread in it's own right.0
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