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12-fold surge in parking ticket appeals (POPLA) in just two years

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  • Dee140157
    Dee140157 Posts: 2,864 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    Looking on the bright side, if they have had a 12 fold increase in work, presumably they have had to take on more staff. Part of that will be as a direct result of this forum's efforts. This means we members of MSE have created jobs which is always good in a slow economy.
    Now let's see how many more jobs we can create...
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  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    According to the annual report PoPLA has 25 staff.

    Very, very roughly that's going to equate to a staff bill in the region of £1M - £1.5M p.a.

    Then there's rent and all the other costs. £3M isn't going to be a million miles wide of the mark.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • Hot_Bring
    Hot_Bring Posts: 1,596 Forumite
    nobbysn*ts wrote: »
    How do you get your figures?

    It costs PPCs £27+VAT an appeal. It was reported ( by Parking Prankster if memory serves but apololgies if it wasn't ) that each appeal also costs the BPA £100.
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  • Nodding_Donkey
    Nodding_Donkey Posts: 2,738 Forumite
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    Browntoa wrote: »
    People tended to complain after receiving an invalid ticket, or buying the right ticket but being accused of not displaying it on their windscreens

    If POPLA said that then it's a bit disingenuous of them as that would be mitigation and an automatic fail. Surely they are not trying to get more people to use that as an appeal?
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 10 July 2014 at 12:31PM
    How can it be mitigation if a machine spews out an invalid ticket? If you pay for a valid ticket but do not get one they may be in breach of SOGA, goods not fit for purpose
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    The underlined bit is talking about failure to display, not failure to get a valid ticket. Failure to display, even when having made the purchase, is mitigation ... POPLA say on their website that mitigation will not be taken into account. Hence the "disingenuous" observation. :)
  • nobbysn*ts
    nobbysn*ts Posts: 1,176 Forumite
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    Hot_Bring wrote: »
    It costs PPCs £27+VAT an appeal. It was reported ( by Parking Prankster if memory serves but apololgies if it wasn't ) that each appeal also costs the BPA £100.

    b2b won't incur vat, and the losses are offset against tax, so it's more like £500k. Still a good figure though. :)
  • nobbysn*ts
    nobbysn*ts Posts: 1,176 Forumite
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    bazster wrote: »
    According to the annual report PoPLA has 25 staff.

    Very, very roughly that's going to equate to a staff bill in the region of £1M - £1.5M p.a.

    Then there's rent and all the other costs. £3M isn't going to be a million miles wide of the mark.

    £40k to £60k a year salary? I'm tempted by the dark side.
  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    nobbysn*ts wrote: »
    £40k to £60k a year salary? I'm tempted by the dark side.

    I didn't say salary. There is more to staff costs than just salaries.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,803 Forumite
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    Employment costs, not just salaries. And most employees will be legally trained, so they won't be on minimum wages.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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