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Claiming job seekers allowance with depression and anxiety
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2gorgeousgirls wrote: »The jobcentre's aim is to get as many people off benefit as possible.
16+ hours removes you from the benefit system so the Jobcentre will not tell you that you must look for jobs 40+ hours.
If you feel you will be able to work a minimum of 16 hours (and get off benefits) then apply for those jobs. If you don't feel you can manage that, then you should consider applying for ESA (assuming, of course, your GP will provide a fit note).
Whatever route you take, you really should seek help with your anxiety.
16 hours would be a part time job would it not. On my agreement it says it has to be a minimum of 40hours, if I wasn't applying for those it goes against it, and I would stop getting the money.
If I got an interview for one of these full time jobs I couldn't handle doing it but would have no choice but to do it
I might need to look into the esa and get the note from my gp.
I am getting help with the anxiety slightly it's the depression which is more of the problem, but both affect me a lot even though I'm on antidepressants0 -
16 hours would be a part time job would it not. On my agreement it says it has to be a minimum of 40hours, if I wasn't applying for those it goes against it, and I would stop getting the money.
Erm... nope. No, that's wrong.
There's nothing in the law that can require you only apply for jobs that are a minimum of 40 hours.
Can I check... you have an old style job seekers agreement? not claimant commitment? And it says "Most hours I can work each week.... 40:00"
If not, can you write exactly what the agreement says?
The above 40 hours is a maximum figure. It means they can sanction you if you refuse to take a job of between 24 and 40 hours a week. NOT that you can only apply to jobs of more than 40 hours.“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
So she can't just say no to it, r.
Equality Act 2010, s20 and s55, and schedule 2 of the act.
Jobcentre plus has a legal duty to make reasonable adjustments, including where necessary the provision of a adviser that has been trained to deal with disabilities.“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
Erm... nope. No, that's wrong.
There's nothing in the law that can require you only apply for jobs that are a minimum of 40 hours.
Can I check... you have an old style job seekers agreement? not claimant commitment? And it says "Most hours I can work each week.... 40:00"
If not, can you write exactly what the agreement says?
The above 40 hours is a maximum figure. It means they can sanction you if you refuse to take a job of between 24 and 40 hours a week. NOT that you can only apply to jobs of more than 40 hours.
It says ' I am available for work for any hours on any day up to a minimum of 40 hours per week.
I know if I am not available as agreed above my job seekers and or national insurance will be stopped'
That's what it says, on the thing I sign0 -
Equality Act 2010, s20 and s55, and schedule 2 of the act.
Jobcentre plus has a legal duty to make reasonable adjustments, including where necessary the provision of a adviser that has been trained to deal with disabilities.
Does depression/anxiety count as a disability though since it's a mental illness.
They are making me attend a 2 day course from 9-4 for applying to jobs. There's noway I can be there that long, I can't concentrate for that long. I couldn't even last in college more than 2 hours without missing lessons because it was too much for me. I can only get an appointment with my gp next week so I can't get a note from them. Any idea about what I can do about this0 -
It says ' I am available for work for any hours on any day up to a minimum of 40 hours per week.
I know if I am not available as agreed above my job seekers and or national insurance will be stopped'
That's what it says, on the thing I sign
That's ridiculous, Shelly. Whoever wrote that is an idiot
Nevertheless, it is still the case that under regulation 7 of the Jobseekers Allowance Regulations 1996 you are entitled to restrict your hours of work to 40 hours or (if you want) more.
The JSAG doesn't override the law.“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
Does depression/anxiety count as a disability though since it's a mental illness.
Yes, it does.They are making me attend a 2 day course from 9-4 for applying to jobs. There's noway I can be there that long, I can't concentrate for that long. I couldn't even last in college more than 2 hours without missing lessons because it was too much for me. I can only get an appointment with my gp next week so I can't get a note from them. Any idea about what I can do about this
I am afraid I've revised my opinion. If your situation is as you described it you should be on ESA and not JSA. You need to be able to work if you are on JSA, and I don't see how you can.“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
It says ' I am available for work for any hours on any day up to a minimum of 40 hours per week.
I know if I am not available as agreed above my job seekers and or national insurance will be stopped'
That's what it says, on the thing I sign
I used to sign on in 2010 - 2012. I did ask if I am allowed to take jobs that are 16 hours a week. I was told yes as long as it's enough to get me off JSA, it doesn't matter.Sealed pot challenge #232. Gold stars from Sue-UU - :staradmin :staradmin £75.29 banked
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That's ridiculous, Shelly. Whoever wrote that is an idiot
Nevertheless, it is still the case that under regulation 7 of the Jobseekers Allowance Regulations 1996 you are entitled to restrict your hours of work to 40 hours or (if you want) more.
The JSAG doesn't override the law.
That's what I was thinking a complete idiot wrote it, when I first read it I was hoping I misinterpreted it, but I read it a few times and it definitely said that, I was like that's a crazy amount for a minimum amount, a reasonable minimum would be 20 hours or something.
I feel like the job centre thinks they can override the law, and because I've signed it which would say I agreed with it.0 -
Yes, it does.
I am afraid I've revised my opinion. If your situation is as you described it you should be on ESA and not JSA. You need to be able to work if you are on JSA, and I don't see how you can.
Yeah at the moment I'm just not in the mind frame to work, I wouldn't be able to keep the job.
So I should apply for esa, and then not be on job seekers. If I was on esa I wouldn't have to apply for jobs0
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