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Will neighbours complain? - too many delivery vans coming into street

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  • Nicki
    Nicki Posts: 8,166 Forumite
    I might complain if I was at home all day and the vans obstructed the road so I couldn't get in or out of my drive/the cul de sac regularly eg at school pick up and drop off time or if they made a noise nuisance eg by beeping horns. But I would complain to you first not the council to see if there could be a resolution and I wouldn't complain at all unless it was inconveniencing me on a daily basis. In my last house a few neighbours ran businesses from home without declaring it and paying business rates but as it didn't affect my enjoyment of my home it didn't bother me.
  • meritaten
    meritaten Posts: 24,158 Forumite
    Thanks Lily Rose :)

    I don't want them to complain to the council, because the council will try and get business rates from us (even though we have no dedicated business rooms)

    so you are running a business from a residential property? and evading council business rates. I wonder what else you are evading?
    my house has a 'covenant' on it - I cannot run a business from it. many other homes on residential estates have one too.
  • whodathunkit
    whodathunkit Posts: 1,130 Forumite
    I'd be annoyed to find a neighbour was operating a business from a residential address, particularly if it was with a view to fraudulenly not paying their dues.

    If you're being dishonest in this, in how many other areas of your life are you cheating?
  • Savvy_Sue
    Savvy_Sue Posts: 47,328 Forumite
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    I am not sure biz rates are due if no rooms are exclusively used for business. So OP is not necessarily evading his dues.

    There might well be complaints though. If the house was rented it would be a definite breach of the tenancy agreement in most cases. and if you have a mortgage then you should inform your lender.
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  • whodathunkit
    whodathunkit Posts: 1,130 Forumite
    Savvy_Sue wrote: »
    I am not sure biz rates are due if no rooms are exclusively used for business. So OP is not necessarily evading his dues.

    There might well be complaints though. If the house was rented it would be a definite breach of the tenancy agreement in most cases. and if you have a mortgage then you should inform your lender.

    You may be right but the fact is that the OP thinks he is.

    I have cats and if I'd bought a house in a quiet cul de sac where they might be safe I'd be livid if someone started running a business there with 4 deliveries a day, even more so if I were a parent who'd bought somewhere that children could play safely out the front.
  • surveyqueenuk
    surveyqueenuk Posts: 673 Forumite

    I don't want them to complain to the council, because the council will try and get business rates from us (even though we have no dedicated business rooms)

    So from your post OP, it is clear that you know you are not liable for these rates. There's no suggestion of evasion at all.

    Worst case - neighbours moan to council. Council would contact the Valuation Office Agency. It is the VOA who would decide if business rates apply, usually by visiting the house. They would see for themselves that there are no dedicated business rooms and advise your local council of this.
  • Gloomendoom
    Gloomendoom Posts: 16,551 Forumite
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    You may be right but the fact is that the OP thinks he is.

    I have cats and if I'd bought a house in a quiet cul de sac where they might be safe I'd be livid if someone started running a business there with 4 deliveries a day, even more so if I were a parent who'd bought somewhere that children could play safely out the front.

    Would you be as livid if your neighbours started shopping on the internet? We live up a lane in a quiet village and, although there is hardly any traffic at all, most weekday traffic is a made up of delivery vans of some sort.

    It hasn't stopped the lane being a favourite of dog walkers, horse riders, cats, dogs, playing children, ramblers , even a peacock on occasions. Most of whom walk down the middle of the road. As far as I'm aware, none have come close to meeting a sticky end under the wheels of a delivery van.
  • surveyqueenuk
    surveyqueenuk Posts: 673 Forumite
    You may be right but the fact is that the OP thinks he is.

    OP knows he is not liable. He just doesn't want any hassle.

    I have cats and if I'd bought a house in a quiet cul de sac where they might be safe I'd be livid if someone started running a business there with 4 deliveries a day,

    What if it was just shopping though? Would you still be livid?

    even more so if I were a parent who'd bought somewhere that children could play safely out the front.

    Under the Traffic Act, it's actually illegal for children to play in the road itself so they would be keeping to the pavement or garden surely? If the children have no road safety awareness then you wouldn't be letting them play out unsupervised would you?
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  • duchy
    duchy Posts: 19,511 Forumite
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    I'd have thought four delivery vans in a day in a cul de sac would barely be noticed - especially as these companies pool deliveries so some days the van would be delivering to more than one house.

    As for someone been "livid" at four deliveries a day- Thank you for choosing to live where you do and not near me. In these days of internet shopping increasing you will probably find yourself getting "livid" more and more often !!
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  • Gloomendoom
    Gloomendoom Posts: 16,551 Forumite
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    Under the Traffic Act, it's actually illegal for children to play in the road itself so they would be keeping to the pavement or garden surely? If the children have no road safety awareness then you wouldn't be letting them play out unsupervised would you?

    It's not illegal for children, or anybody else, to play in the street. However, if a person plays at football or any other game on a highway to the annoyance of a user of the highway he is guilty of an offence.

    Section 161 of the Highways Act 1980
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