Industrial Action 10th July

antonic

alastairq wrote: »

Firstly, the OR has absolutely no say, or interest, in how, where or when income is acquired, or not, as the case may be.

There is no [legal or moral] compulsion to maintain an income of any sort, whilst Bankrupt, or having agreed to an IPA.
An IPA can be varied up, down, or reduced to zero, should the BR's circumstances change.

If the OP feels strongly enough to want to support their colleagues in this protest strike, and a reduction in income ensues, this change-of-circumstance should be communicated to the OR within 21 days.

Any IPA payment should then be adjusted accordingly. The relevant pay slip may have to be forwarded to the collectors.[whoever they may be these days?}

And for those who feel self -righteous about Unions, [and strike action,] bear in mind almost all of the benefits we workers have enjoyed over the past 50 years [holidays, overtime , minimum wages, pensions, and a myriad of other benefits] have all come about because of workers protesting, in solidarity.

What is often forgotten is that strike action is, like bankruptcy, a last resort.

It is arrived at, out of frustration over a lack of interaction, or, communication/negotiation , with a management.

Very definitely so in this instance.

BTW, most Unions also have an Emergency [strike] fund, whereby any member who can claim a hardship can receive payment from the Union itself.

At least, that applies to me, as a member of PCS.

But I also respect the right of Union members to avoid a strike if they so wish.

I would not like to think colleagues supported strike action out of moral fear.

[just remember, if taking strike action, don't do compensatory overtime in that same week, if one is subject to 'conditioned hours?'

And, definitely don't 'clear' backlogs!!]

As a fellow PCS member (who did vote for the strike), I will be out on strike on Thursday.

If fellow Union members want to work thats upto them and I will leave it at that.

Thrugelmir

alastairq wrote: »

And, as long as that attitude is maintained, the employer will continue to keep incomes suppressed.

The fact is, you are worth more than that!

Fantasy economics I'm afraid to say. Judging by the productivity of our Union reps arguably many are overpaid. As we can't figure how they fill their days. Yet endlessly moan about the management. Questionable whether much of the public sector is fit for purpose.

alastairq

Questionable whether much of the public sector is fit for purpose.

Equally, the public obviously get what they deserve?

glentoran99

do what people in my place do, take a days holiday

TheGardener

glentoran99 wrote: »

do what people in my place do, take a days holiday

Too late - if the leave was not booked before the official announcement of action (which was last Monday) then management will refuse requests for leave as per terms and conditions of employment in the public sector.
Only exceptions being emergency compassionate leave

Bella_Smythe

((phone in sick))
i didnt just say that.

alastairq

then management will refuse requests for leave as per terms and conditions of employment in the public sector.

All of which will rather upset those who are not [or do not support] their local Union, eh?

If reporting sick, do so at the beginning of the week? Looks less suspicious?

Actually, PCS is only striking, in support. [from what I can gather?]

A day's pay really is rather negligible in the great scheme of things [when working out one's losses, don't forget to work from nett pay, as one does not pay tax on what one doesn't earn'....plus the savings in terms of fuel [commuting], food, etc?

Personally, I enjoy a morning on the Picket line.....Our bosses traditionally have brought out bacon sarnies, tea & coffee for us..[and have often been photographed by the local press with us...]..although we do provide our own bacon buttie kitchen.....they often have smpathy for us, since the issues we strike over, are their issues too, and they are not allowed to protest or complain..

glentoran99

TheGardener wrote: »

Too late - if the leave was not booked before the official announcement of action (which was last Monday) then management will refuse requests for leave as per terms and conditions of employment in the public sector.
Only exceptions being emergency compassionate leave

I'd query that, rules in my place are that if the leave would be granted in normal conditions it has to be granted,

TheGardener

glentoran99 wrote: »

I'd query that, rules in my place are that if the leave would be granted in normal conditions it has to be granted,

It is spelt out in the 'all staff' email - part of the T&C's of the employment at the council and a common clause in Local Authority contracts if you want to be paid. If booked prior to the official announcement of the strike its fine - but not after.
Under 'normal circumstances' you have to give a minimum of 4 weeks notice of leave anyway - its just common practice to allow short notice leave at the discretion of management. They just withdraw the 'discretion' immediately prior to the strike.
In all fairness - the date of the proposed strike was common knowledge weeks before the official announcement so those on the ball could have booked it off anyway.

BillJones

alastairq wrote: »

And, as long as that attitude is maintained, the employer will continue to keep incomes suppressed.

The fact is, you are worth more than that!

Wage suppression really is nothing but an excuse. Especially in the Public sector!

Interesting. I negotiate my pay individually, and have been fortunate enough, with my skills enough in demand, that I now get more in a year than I would have received in the full 40 years I could have worked as a civil servant.

Can I assume that you applaud my diligence and negotiating skills, or do you only applaud higher wages when it's in the public sector?