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Accident not in Accident Book

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  • harrys_dad
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    dacouch wrote: »
    Rubbish, it will come from the councils Insurers which will be Zurich or if they self Insure / have a very high excess will come from the council

    That will depend on what sort of school it is, Community, Academy, Free etc etc.
  • ThumbRemote
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    My son is picked up by a minibus every day - he goes to a special school. I take him to the bus and collect him from it, but even though I help him on and off the bus, I can honestly say that I have never had my feet close enough to have them run over.

    How on earth can a foot get so close? Surely the front of your mum's body would be brushing against the minibus as well?

    I'm sorry, I just can't see how this has happened.

    OP makes no mention of the speed or direction of the minibus. It's entirely possible that the bus was driving too fast for a busy car park, and for a few inches she could have been hit full on instead of her foot.

    Though if she had mentioned that, there'd be the usual muppets on here going on about how it's not relevant to mention what could have happened. Some people just like to pick holes in anything posted.
    stebiz wrote: »
    However I also think the OP's Mum should look very closely at herself and why she even allowed this to happen. If she can't stop her own foot being run over then maybe she isn't the right person to collect the child either.

    Presumably, given this logic, anyone who is hit by a car is at fault for allowing it to happen?
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    Dad, do you know the minibus is on my foot?

    You hum it some and I'll play it.
  • daytona0
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    OP makes no mention of the speed or direction of the minibus. It's entirely possible that the bus was driving too fast for a busy car park, and for a few inches she could have been hit full on instead of her foot.

    You're right but as this is turning into a claim then OP would most likely have mentioned such details to enhance the legitimacy of the claim...
    Though if she had mentioned that, there'd be the usual muppets on here going on about how it's not relevant to mention what could have happened. Some people just like to pick holes in anything posted.

    probably but it would have identifid whose fault it was much easier...

    Presumably, given this logic, anyone who is hit by a car is at fault for allowing it to happen?

    The user didn't state anything about fault... Merely asked why it happened and whether you would trust someone who got their foot run over by a bus.... A bit of self awareness goes a long way in preventing getting hit by a bus/car or getting yer foot ran over.... I think stebiz was thinking more along the lines of "can you trust your mother to pick up kids if she ends up getting her foot run over?" Not strictly the mum's fault but still a stupid situation to get into which most people prevent.
  • Tabitha_T
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    Well, what a lot of interesting responses. In my innocence I hadn't contemplated such harsh judgment. So, thank you to those who posted good sound advice, and to the others, especially those who deem my Mother unfit for purpose, I shall illuminate as follows: Independent bus company, any claim is against them, not the council or school; a temp driver lost control of the bus, it shot across the car park, hitting my Mum, the front nearside wheel crushed her foot. My Mum required surgery, follow up hospital appointments, physio, taxis, and so it goes on. She lives alone and has needed constant help and taxis. Being run over was NOT her fault, but it was the fault of the driver. Insurance companies are there for this very purpose, to protect and compensate the victim for pain, inconvenience, loss of income, additional expenses, etc. This has altered her life at the age of 70. Incidentally, although the police were called, no action was taken as the accident was on 'private land' and not the main highway. My Mum was allowed to park her car in the school car park as she is registered disabled. Since the accident, the car park has become out of bounds to all but staff, locks are now put on the gates during the day. All a bit late really. There are hundreds of minibuses that collect kids from schools every day, my daughter's Primary school is no different. The children line up in the car park to get on the minibus. Bad enough that my Mum got hit, but this could easily have killed a small child. If the school failed to record the incident in the Accident Book, and the HSE say it was a legal requirement for them to have done so, then they have acted negligently and should be taken to task.
  • stebiz
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    Tabitha_T wrote: »
    Well, what a lot of interesting responses. In my innocence I hadn't contemplated such harsh judgment. So, thank you to those who posted good sound advice, and to the others, especially those who deem my Mother unfit for purpose, I shall illuminate as follows: Independent bus company, any claim is against them, not the council or school; a temp driver lost control of the bus, it shot across the car park, hitting my Mum, the front nearside wheel crushed her foot. My Mum required surgery, follow up hospital appointments, physio, taxis, and so it goes on. She lives alone and has needed constant help and taxis. Being run over was NOT her fault, but it was the fault of the driver. Insurance companies are there for this very purpose, to protect and compensate the victim for pain, inconvenience, loss of income, additional expenses, etc. This has altered her life at the age of 70. Incidentally, although the police were called, no action was taken as the accident was on 'private land' and not the main highway. My Mum was allowed to park her car in the school car park as she is registered disabled. Since the accident, the car park has become out of bounds to all but staff, locks are now put on the gates during the day. All a bit late really. There are hundreds of minibuses that collect kids from schools every day, my daughter's Primary school is no different. The children line up in the car park to get on the minibus. Bad enough that my Mum got hit, but this could easily have killed a small child. If the school failed to record the incident in the Accident Book, and the HSE say it was a legal requirement for them to have done so, then they have acted negligently and should be taken to task.

    Might have been a good idea to have put all the above in your first post. Disabled or not - never a good idea to use a a school car park when children are around. Now it's closed to the public I'm sure your Mum will still manage.
    Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies
  • giraffe69
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    The judgemental responses in this thread are absurd but quite typical. Don't know the facts? Well judge anyway and then blame OP for not telling all in post 1.
    Whether it is right or not to sue it is certainly a matter that is going to be dealt with by an insurance company or perhaps the council. Any money paid might be reflected in higher premiums but it is not taking funding away from the school.
    The school management were somewhat derelict if they did not record an accident of this nature if only to protect themselves. If OP's mother has suffered not only pain but costs in terms of getting around then assuming the facts are not in dispute any insurance company would be bonkers not to settle this with an offer.
  • arcon5
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    stebiz wrote: »
    Might have been a good idea to have put all the above in your first post. Disabled or not - never a good idea to use a a school car park when children are around. Now it's closed to the public I'm sure your Mum will still manage.

    A car park is by its very nature there to park cars. And with cars come people. And with it being a school its safe to assume some of those people will be children.
    The fact you say op shouldn't have parked in a CAR park in a school because children may be around has got to win you the 'dumbest comment of the year(to date)' award.

    I'm also surprised after two pages of posts nobody figured out the vehicle will have insurance - not like its a legal requirement hay! :sarcastic:. Instead posters moaning the school or council will be out of pocket. Wow!

    Now it turns out ops mum was injured as a result of a driver who lost control and didn't do a rollypolly in to moving traffic followed by the splits to get that foot firmly in there with accidentsRus on speed dial, I wonder who will be the first to apologise.
  • stebiz
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    arcon5 wrote: »

    The fact you say op shouldn't have parked in a CAR park in a school because children may be around has got to win you the 'dumbest comment of the year(to date)' award.

    A car park where she had permission to park, unlike other parents, because she was disabled. Or did you not notice that bit?:D The car park is now closed to disabled people as well because of the incident.
    Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies
  • daytona0
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    Tabitha_T wrote: »
    Independent bus company, any claim is against them, not the council or school; a temp driver lost control of the bus

    Good to hear that. I would say though that your complaint is against the bus company really and whilst it may have happened on school grounds (I would however check to see whether it could possibly have been land not owned by the school/council) it should have been recorded - as long as you get the compensation though I would recommend just leaving the school alone because whilst potentially negligent, it is ultimately impacting on the education o your children.
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