Tesco eCoupon - Is it LEGAL?

leeves

Hello,

So, £4,500 worth of Tesco eCoupons have come into my possession... They all work (for Tesco.com sites ie. Groceries etc.)

Some have been used successfully.

I DO NOT own the clubcard these belong too (although they are not stolen)

Is it LEGAL to use these?

My understanding is that, if anything, it is against the ToS / ToB and realistically, this is not a criminal offence.

No mis representation is happening, ie. I will be using my own account, my own address, my own card (to pay any excess on each order) my own name.

Vouchers values are £100 each and you can use an unlimited amount per order.

Also, Would be illegal to sell such coupons? or just against their ToS / ToB?


Free £50 voucher to the best answer haha.

Doc_N

leeves wrote: »

Hello,

So, £4,500 worth of Tesco eCoupons have come into my possession... They all work (for Tesco.com sites ie. Groceries etc.)

Some have been used successfully.

I DO NOT own the clubcard these belong too (although they are not stolen)

Is it LEGAL to use these?

My understanding is that, if anything, it is against the ToS / ToB and realistically, this is not a criminal offence.

No mis representation is happening, ie. I will be using my own account, my own address, my own card (to pay any excess on each order) my own name.

Vouchers values are £100 each and you can use an unlimited amount per order.

Also, Would be illegal to sell such coupons? or just against their ToS / ToB?


Free £50 voucher to the best answer haha.

Only from that rag of a paper the Mail, but take care. This has a ring of criminality to it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2042102/Tesco-Sainsburys-shoppers-face-convictions-abusing-money-vouchers.html

redagila

I am not sure what you mean by e-Coupons but surely from what you say it would appear that these are only to be used by the person who owns the Clubcard.


Also, if already used once, why would you think that you can now use them again? I cannot believe that they are meant to be used repeatedly and, if not, then in my opinion you would certainly be committing fraud.


By asking this question, it seems that you doubt whether you can use them. You could always ask Tesco!!!

leeves

redagila wrote: »

I am not sure what you mean by e-Coupons but surely from what you say it would appear that these are only to be used by the person who owns the Clubcard.


Also, if already used once, why would you think that you can now use them again? I cannot believe that they are meant to be used repeatedly and, if not, then in my opinion you would certainly be committing fraud.


By asking this question, it seems that you doubt whether you can use them. You could always ask Tesco!!!

I wouldn't be using them twice, all the codes are currently unused.

Each code is individual and it's impossible to use them more than once.

I'm not abusing any bug in the system.

I would ask Tesco, however I already know it to be against their terms of service. But that doesn't indicate criminal activity or intent.

My question is: I buy non duplicated / original and I used Tesco voucher codes and then use them.

Is that a criminal offence?

Blankityblank

It's not criminal but tesco can and do cancel orders and close accounts if they think you are abusing their system

arcon5

How did they come in to your possession? Do they all have an 'owner'?

My initial thoughts are the offence of theft by finding; fraud act; or computer misuse act (or whatever its called).

Nobody can really answer your question without more info though.

Ps pm me my voucher

InsideInsurance

Do you really think there is a Tesco Clubcard Act?

The clubcard and its scheme is governed by its own terms and conditions and there is no act of parliament that created it to make their use illegal.

Of cause fraud, theft etc is a criminal offence but you say that neither of these are happening. Evidently if you know you are acting against the terms of the scheme you may find the vouchers voided and you owing the value of the ones you've spent.

powerful_Rogue

Sounds like Fraud by Misrepresentation to me.

(1)A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a)dishonestly makes a false representation, and
(b)intends, by making the representation—
(i)to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii)to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.


(2)A representation is false if—
(a)it is untrue or misleading, and
(b)the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.


(3)“Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—
(a)the person making the representation, or
(b)any other person.


(4)A representation may be express or implied.


(5)For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).

leeves

powerful_Rogue wrote: »

Sounds like Fraud by Misrepresentation to me.

(1)A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a)dishonestly makes a false representation, and
(b)intends, by making the representation—
(i)to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii)to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.


(2)A representation is false if—
(a)it is untrue or misleading, and
(b)the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.


(3)“Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—
(a)the person making the representation, or
(b)any other person.


(4)A representation may be express or implied.


(5)For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).

Seems a little grey to be honest.


I don't believe I would be making a false representation - I bought some voucher codes from a guy - presented them to redeem.

The source of them is unknown to my self.

Any other input?

Browntoa

if they turn out to be stolen or fraudulently obtained by them then handling stolen goods at least

powerful_Rogue

leeves wrote: »

Seems a little grey to be honest.


I don't believe I would be making a false representation - I bought some voucher codes from a guy - presented them to redeem.

The source of them is unknown to my self.

Any other input?

Seems pretty black and white to me.

(1)A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a)dishonestly makes a false representation, and
(b)intends, by making the representation—
(i)to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii)to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

So, £4,500 worth of Tesco eCoupons have come into my possession.

I DO NOT own the clubcard these belong too (although they are not stolen)

Clubcard accounts, cards, key fobs, coupons, points and vouchers cannot be transferred, bought, sold or in any way traded.

You obviously know its not right, otherwise you wouldnt have posted asking for advice.