neighbours tree is starting to block the view of the valley from my house

Idiophreak

DaftyDuck wrote: »

Says who? Frankly, I doubt it'll affect the value. I'm pretty certain the use of here "massive" is beyond ridiculous.

PollySouthend wrote: »

his tree is reducing the value of my home

Well, the OP said it was reducing the value of their home, so you can doubt all you want.

As to "massive", as described earlier, my parents had their back garden completely overshadowed by the neighbours' trees...knocked about 25% off the value of the house. I view that as a massive amount of money - you're very fortunate if you don't. Personally, I can easily see that having a lovely view down the valley vs staring at the side of some numpty's tree would make a significant difference to the value of a house. And a significant chunk of a house is a massive amount of money these days.

DaftyDuck wrote: »

Shock horror! Trees grow!! Leylandii-type grow fast!!!!! OMG.... trees grow upwards... and outwards.... Whoda thought it???!!! Anyway, much smaller? Four feet smaller, I thought... that doesn't sound like "much smaller", unless it was a bush!

I don't know, I suppose the amount larger it is is proportional to the impact it's having on OP. It seems to have become big enough to ruin their view and impact on the value of their property. I'd say much bigger. You say bigger. Fine.

Trees do grow...but trees can also *shock horror* be trimmed, pruned or otherwise maintained at an appropriate height for a domestic garden.

DaftyDuck wrote: »

people take illegal action.. like pouring diesel on the roots, ringing the tree, breaking it in half (it's sooo big, after all).... And that makes sense to you how?

Where the law fails to provide a remedy, people turn to illegal means to get stuff done. Not saying it's right, or condoning it, but it certainly makes sense to me.

DaftyDuck wrote: »

If they are unable to enjoy their home because of one tree and one view... ruining their finances??? Blimey, are you on something? It's a tree. In. Somebody. Else's. Garden!!!

Again, you're very lucky if you can afford to have a significant chunk of the value of your home knocked off and feel no ill effects. Many people could be pushed into negative equity due to something like this...given your complete lack of empathy, I assume this is something you've never experienced...but it's not a nice place to be and can, indeed, ruin people's finances for years.

DaftyDuck wrote: »

As the neighbour, if asked, I'd certainly consider the proposition. If I chose not to cut the tree (which was there, and could be expected to grow, and may add to my enjoyment, and, for all we know, may add to the enjoyment of many others), that should be an end to the matter.

As you keep saying...t's a tree! How much enjoyment can a person get out of a tree? If they're that enamoured with the things, they can visit one of the beautiful forests in this country and get their rocks off...but they should act with some kind of consideration for their neighbours when planting in their own garden.

Idiophreak

M0ney wrote: »

Any inanimate object (like a tree for example) that remains in your neighbour's is none of your business and if it is upsetting the karma of your life that is your problem not his.

Except that's just not the case...it's not "like a tree for example"...it's "just trees".

Take..err...houses. Could a house, an "inanimate object" be built in your neighbour's garden? Their business, right...nothing to do with you? No.

Could they build a folly, a tower, a phone mast?

A (big) statue, an art work, a helter skelter?

Really struggling to think of anything 30ft tall *besides a tree* that your neighbour would be allowed to put in their garden without you having any kind of legal recourse.

It's strange that people are happy to accept all these limitations, but don't see why trees should be bound by the same rules.

DaftyDuck

given your complete lack of empathy, I assume this is something you've never experienced.

Um... I'm just off to take a photograph and upload it....

Er... getting there... had to change cameras for one with a wider angle....

Here we go...



You can see my hedge, that's against my wall. Neatly trimmed, not overhanging.

I'll get another one to show the tree from the ground: that's from the second floor... Parallax makes it look small from there..

No, it's currently raining. But, standing in my second floor window, I'm halfway up the tree. I'm the tallest house around, and it's a good ten metres taller than my house. It dwarfs all the neighbouring houses. I'd love it to go. But, the owner loves it. Loves the pigeons than nest in it.

You can see nothing really grows within 25 feet of that corner of my garden. Except seedling sycamores, by the million. The roots are huge, and the soil therefore dry. It shades that corner as well.

Would I like it gone? Of course... it blocks part of my view, and I'm right by the seaside! However, it's not mine to destroy, and the owner wants it there. His tree, his property. I have no right to the view, and there's nothing I can do about it. "Massive" loss of money? Unlikely, and I do have a little experience of house prices. Maybe a thousand quid or so, absolute maximum, probably not a jot of a difference in fact.

Edit: OK, I've got one from the ground, but my camera hasn't got a wide-enough setting :rotfl::rotfl:



So, the top bit you can see in that photo, that's the bulge just under halfway up the other photo. That's a white two-storey house in the background, so it towers well over twice - probably three times - as high as that. The top of the Cyprus tree in the top photo is lower then the top of the bottom photo!


Luckily for me - that's not my greenhouse underneath it! Yep, look closely under the tree in the 1st photo, there's a greenhouse....

Idiophreak: Quite right; I have never experienced it! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:...

Just off to get some diesel to pour on the roots, then it's off to tip acid in the other neighbour's pool, as they don't half make a screaming racket, and I don't like that either!

Edit: I'll leave these pictures up for the laughs for a while, then delete them, as they do rather detract from the OP's thread. I just thought Idiotphreak might like to see that I do, actually, have some experience of a massive tool ... er tree... getting in the way!

Davesnave

Idiophreak wrote: »

Well, the OP said it was reducing the value of their home, so you can doubt all you want.

I do doubt. It's her opinion and completely untested.

I made the same wrong assumption myself over a bungalow, where the field next door turned into a housing estate. Instead of a natural view of wildflowers and trees, we suddenly had a 3 storey monstrosity next door.

Didn't make a scrap of difference. Those keen to buy hadn't seen the view of the field, so felt no loss.

DaftyDuck

One added comment. Quite a few people presumably agree with the points I've been making, as I've been "thanked" by several. Having followed this forum for some time, I can safely say I recognise most of them, remember their posts over the last few years, and I'd welcome each of them as kind and considerate neighbours.

There are a couple of posters who have "thanked" the "hope he dies soon" and "cut the bark/roots" posts, and I've been aware of those posters too. I'd hate to have any one of them as a neighbour.

To accurately point out what I think of some of their morals and attitudes to "neighbourliness" would, undoubtedly, fall foul of Forum rules! However, should I ever find myself with such selfish, self-obsessed, self-righteous amoral and lawless neighbours, I'd move, and pity the person who bought my property.

The sad and strange thing is, many of them, no doubt, consider themselves the epitome of "good neighbours".

Mr_Ted

SO that its known why I have been so scathing of the OP, when it comes to a point of wishing someone dead because they are old and the OP cant get their own way and there are idiots who pander to her ridiculous selfishness, THEN the OP deserves to be told EXACTLY what a nasty piece of work she is

We have bred several generations of, SO CALLED, adults in this country that think they can do as they want, say as they want, AND get away with what they want and do :mad:

SORRY, IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN, NOT WHILE I HAVE BREATH IN MY BODY:p

Oh and if you take the bother to look you will also see that this is also a person who works in an office with others but even there expects the temperature to be set solely to her needs.

SPOILT NUMPTY IF YOU ASK ME!!!

rustyboy21

Here is a question for you all to answer....


How does a tree blocking a view take 25% off the price of your house, when the people viewing it, never saw the view in the first place and don't know that the tree(s) hasn't always been there?

Idiophreak

DaftyDuck wrote: »

...unrelated nonsense...

I said that you obviously had no experience of *negative equity*...not trees. Enjoyed the pictures though, thanks. Very green.

DaftyDuck wrote: »

Idiotphreak

That's just *so clever*...:doh:

Idiophreak

rustyboy21 wrote: »

Here is a question for you all to answer....


How does a tree blocking a view take 25% off the price of your house, when the people viewing it, never saw the view in the first place and don't know that the tree(s) hasn't always been there?

Is that a serious question?

If you had a 4th bedroom and then you knocked it down, would you say

"How does removing a bedroom take 25% off the price of your house, when the people viewing it, never saw the room in the first place?"

People pay good money for a house with a nice view, whether it be of a valley, a sea-view or a cityscape. Remove the view, remove the value.

...and the 25% figure I quoted was based on the removal of light more than the removal of a view, I've no idea how much the impact on OPs value has been....

Davesnave

rustyboy21 wrote: »

Here is a question for you all to answer....


How does a tree blocking a view take 25% off the price of your house, when the people viewing it, never saw the view in the first place and don't know that the tree(s) hasn't always been there?

The point I made in post 166.

Just checked tonight for interest. The property I sold in 2007 still holds the top price for the street, despite having its view of fields replaced by a modern monolith in 2006.

I suspect another reason why no viewer fretted over the new house next door was probably because our back garden remained private, being sheltered by.......evergreens!