Sharing/conflict resolution at nursery school?

shegirl

Mojisola wrote: »

I've never known this in anything other than church schools.

My primary school was like that and it wasn't a faith school.

We had assembly every morning too and all had to stand in the hall singing hymns before a prayer,that was after the head waffled on about something.Most of the kids loved it,especially those singing their own versions..

When there was a class assembly (a class putting a little show on) there was a prayer at the end of that too.

It never hurt anyone or made anyone believe in anything.It was just something you done.

notanewuser

liney wrote: »

Did you consult the other parents before you 'addressed it?'

Person one:

By 'leading prayers' at our school, the Head or visiting Vicar comes in, says: 'I'm going to say a prayer, listen carefully, and you can say Amen at the end if you agree.' Hence I say it is not instruction, it is showing the children that Christian people do X, and act in this way, and you can join in if you want to.

Yes, actually. With only 16 children it wasn't hard. Most hadn't even realised it was happening. Most weren't happy when they discovered it was. Only one really wanted the prayers to stay - because of their owm strong faith - but agreed that they could easily ensure exposure to their faith themselves. The others didn't care really.

Mojisola

liney wrote: »

By 'leading prayers' at our school, the Head or visiting Vicar comes in, says: 'I'm going to say a prayer, listen carefully, and you can say Amen at the end if you agree.' Hence I say it is not instruction, it is showing the children that Christian people do X, and act in this way, and you can join in if you want to.

Is there ever any other kind of religion represented?

Do you ever have a visiting Rabbi or Imam?

It's disingenuous to suggest that the children aren't being indoctrinated into Christianity because they are asked "say Amen if you agree" if they are only exposed to Christian prayers.

notanewuser

shegirl wrote: »

My primary school was like that and it wasn't a faith school.

We had assembly every morning too and all had to stand in the hall singing hymns before a prayer,that was after the head waffled on about something.Most of the kids loved it,especially those singing their own versions..

When there was a class assembly (a class putting a little show on) there was a prayer at the end of that too.

It never hurt anyone or made anyone believe in anything.It was just something you done.

So what was the point then?

(Extra English lessons may have been a better idea!)

notanewuser

Mojisola wrote: »

I'd have no problem with a "grace" that gets the children to think about all the people who have worked hard so that their lunch is there and a take care and good wishes mention to everyone at the end of the day but there's no reason to involve God.

That's exactly what I said.

Person_one

liney wrote: »

Did you consult the other parents before you 'addressed it?'

Person one:

By 'leading prayers' at our school, the Head or visiting Vicar comes in, says: 'I'm going to say a prayer, listen carefully, and you can say Amen at the end if you agree.' Hence I say it is not instruction, it is showing the children that Christian people do X, and act in this way, and you can join in if you want to.

Hmm, it sounds to me like a rather half hearted attempt to appear as though it isn't RI!

notanewuser

liney wrote: »

Did you consult the other parents before you 'addressed it?'

Person one:

By 'leading prayers' at our school, the Head or visiting Vicar comes in, says: 'I'm going to say a prayer, listen carefully, and you can say Amen at the end if you agree.' Hence I say it is not instruction, it is showing the children that Christian people do X, and act in this way, and you can join in if you want to.

Any mention of a vicar coming to school to talk to the children and Dd will be excluded from ANY religious activity. F:£,ing liberty.

As I say, the majority of the 3 year olds aren't fluent in welsh yet. They wouldn't know what they were agreeing to!!

venetianlagoon

I wouldn't expect a Vicar in a non church school.

Person_one

shegirl wrote: »

They aren't trying to make you believe.

They certainly were at the state secondary I went to.

Every year on the last day before the Christmas holidays the deputy head did her routine assembly about how we shouldn't use the word 'Xmas' because it 'takes the Christ out of Christmas' and how we all should focus on the 'true meaning' and try to go to Church on Christmas Day.

My (non faith) primary school used to have a Vicar come in to do the assembly once a week in addition to the daily hymns, bible stories, Lord's Prayer etc, and nobody ever even mentioned the possibility that God, Jesus, the bible etc. might not be 100% completely true and real.

This was all after my poor parents appealed so that I didn't have to go to a Church primary. They must have been tearing their hair out!

mountainofdebt

shegirl wrote: »

My primary school was like that and it wasn't a faith school.

We had assembly every morning too and all had to stand in the hall singing hymns before a prayer,that was after the head waffled on about something.Most of the kids loved it,especially those singing their own versions..

When there was a class assembly (a class putting a little show on) there was a prayer at the end of that too.

It never hurt anyone or made anyone believe in anything.It was just something you done.

Same for me shegirl

I seem to remember finishing off assemblies when in secondary school with the Lord's Prayer .....I still make OH smile as I insist on using words such as thy when I say it now.

tbh I don't understand all the fuss - its almost like society has got a 'oh I like that bit of religious custom' attitude about it and that,in my eyes makes it all a little hypocritical