Existing oven hard wired. New one has a plug?

Procrastinator333

Our oven packed up. I ordered a new one from AO. They advertise they can do hard wire installs. I paid for this. They turned up and said sorry can't do this. Idiots. Anyway.

This leaves me with a hard wired existing oven and a new one with a plug. Is there any reason I shouldn't cut the plug off and just hard wire it in myself? My intention was just to copy what is already there. The hard wired cable is presumably the same, Earth, Live and neutral? If I just wire it up in the same way as it is currently wired, then check that the fuse on the hard wire is the same as in the plug (or change if not) and job done? What am I missing? - Obviously will be turning off electrics while I do this!

We do have an electrician coming in a couple of weeks for another job. But I don't really want another 2 weeks without an oven.

Thanks!

SailorSam

How exactly is it wired now, does it go into some sort of socket.
I'd do it but if you don't feel confident be careful. If you've got an electrician coming in a couple of weeks for a 'make do' thing you couple always use an extension lead across the room. Make sure it's powerful enough.

fluffpot

no you can't do that. What you need to do is change the hardwired outlet to a socket and plug in your new oven. Then the 13 A fuse protection is retained

Procrastinator333

I'm not at home so can't check, but I'm pretty certain there is a switch above the counter for turning the oven on an off. This I think has a fuse next to it. Why can that not be swapped for a 13A fuse and therefore keep the 13A protection for the oven?

rochja

Disregard fluffpot. Cooker circuits draw such large currents they have dedicated circuit breakers. That is precisely why they do not have a plug and 13A fuse, and it is also why you should not risk cooking the wiring by plugging into the ring. Have a look at this for guidance on what you can and cannot do. http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/partp.htm

Personally, I would wire it in myself and to hell with potential house insurance problems but then I used to teach electrics and electronics. There is no way you would count as a competent person to conduct the installation if something then went wrong. Then again nothing should go wrong. Then again it might. How risk averse are you?

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uk_messer

Fluffpot is not totally wrong. Older cookers/ovens did have dedicated circuits. Newer ones will work off a standard 13amp plug.

DTDfanBoy

rochja wrote: »

Disregard fluffpot. Cooker circuits draw such large currents they have dedicated circuit breakers. That is precisely why they do not have a plug and 13A fuse, and it is also why you should not risk cooking the wiring by plugging into the ring. Have a look at this for guidance on what you can and cannot do. http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/partp.htm

Personally, I would wire it in myself and to hell with potential house insurance problems but then I used to teach electrics and electronics. There is no way you would count as a competent person to conduct the installation if something then went wrong. Then again nothing should go wrong. Then again it might. How risk averse are you?

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I hope you didn't teach electronics for long :cool:


If the oven came supplied with a fused plug it's fine to use with a fused plug, that said I prefer to hard wire mine into a fused connection unit


Don't just wire it into a standard cooker control switch




as they normally do not contain a fuse. You're then running an oven designed to be protected by a 13amp fuse with a fuse possibly rated at 40amp :eek:

xyz123

rochja wrote: »

Disregard fluffpot. Cooker circuits draw such large currents they have dedicated circuit breakers. That is precisely why they do not have a plug and 13A fuse, and it is also why you should not risk cooking the wiring by plugging into the ring. Have a look at this for guidance on what you can and cannot do. http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/partp.htm

Personally, I would wire it in myself and to hell with potential house insurance problems but then I used to teach electrics and electronics. There is no way you would count as a competent person to conduct the installation if something then went wrong. Then again nothing should go wrong. Then again it might. How risk averse are you?

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What a load of rubbish. If manufacturer fits a few cord with plug to oven means it is designed to work with a ssocket outlet. Not every oven draws high current needing dedicated circuit.

Niv

I think we may have also missed an obvious point; wouldn’t cuttingoff the plug void the warranty?

dld2s

Niv wrote: »

I think we may have also missed an obvious point; wouldn’t cuttingoff the plug void the warranty?

No, as long as the new one is fitted properly. plugs can be damaged or the cable may need to be fitted through a hole for example and the plug may need to be removed to get the cable through, then there's fitting to a fcu to be considered


Personally I would fit a socket where the cable is fixed at the moment and downrate with a 13 amp FCU where your current cooker switch is

I_have_spoken

Is there any reason I shouldn't cut the plug off and just hard wire it in myself?

Legally, almost certainly.

Realistically, no. Just as well that oven was installed before all the regs changed, eh?