Transferred ticket

zipmonster

Not sure where i stand with this PCN issued to me today. I was driving into a local car park in Cornwall, it was pretty packed and access was difficult due to the number of cars entering/exiting the car park. On entering i was asked if i wanted this other persons parking ticket he said it was valid until the next day so i was happy to accept. I checked the ticket was valid and affixed it to my windscreen. On returning i had a PCN stuck to my windscreen, the ticket had fallen down and was in the drivers foot-well. The PCN was issued for not displaying a valid ticket. On further scrutiny the ticket says it is non-transferable and it is one of those special tickets that you have to enter your last 3 letters of the car registration; which does not match my car. After all this evidence against me, my question is should i just pay the charge and accept that i should not have accepted the guys ticket. The company involved is Armtrac. Your advice will be much appreciated.

Dee140157

Since Armtrac don't appear to be members of BPA or IPC they shouldn't be able to pay to the DVLA for the keepers details. This means they have no way of identifying you.

Sit back and wait to see if a Notice to keeper arrives, then post back with details. Armtrac may trade under another name. In theory you shouldn't hear from them. Don't contact them in response to the windscreen notice.

In the meanwhile read the NEWBIES thread above to read up on the advice given for appeals should you need to pay. Circumstances of ticket play little role in the appeals process.

Stroma

They are in the AOS

KBT Cornwall Limited t/as Armtrac Security Services

So wait for the notice to keeper and appeal using the appeal wording in coupons sticky thread

Dee140157

Ah my bad, sorry. I checked the list but missed that. Will read more carefully next time. But in the meanwhile as I said before read and get to understand the Newbies thread so you are prepared when NTK arrives.

Stroma

The way to do it is press on find on a web page , enter the name and it highlights it on the page

zipmonster

Thanks for the replies, so ARMTRAC are part of the BPA. And am i correct that i should follow the procedure in the thread, even though i was given the ticket, it did not have my Reg No on it and it fell off the windscreen!! Although i really do not want to settle the charge it seems that everything is stacked against me for a successful outcome.

Redx

just follow the appeal procedures in the NEWBIES post , and lose the guilt complex

Essingeviken

You'll win this at POPLA if you follow the usual guidlines...i.e. no mitigating circumstances crap....

However, if you lose at POPLA, it might have been better to pay Amstrad their £60 because you'll have a poor case in court, and they most likely will do court. It sounds as it is could have been the same car park I was in last year. They take good photos, so it will be clear that you have no ticket on the screen. Producing the ticket won't help as it is clear you have transferred it.

In other words...make sure you win at POPLA or pay now and forget it.

Coupon-mad

zipmonster wrote: »

Thanks for the replies, so ARMTRAC are part of the BPA. And am i correct that i should follow the procedure in the thread, even though i was given the ticket, it did not have my Reg No on it and it fell off the windscreen!! Although i really do not want to settle the charge it seems that everything is stacked against me for a successful outcome.

Makes no difference what happened. Armtrac won't be able to show the charge is a GPEOL (see the NEWBIES thread).

zipmonster

Thanks for the advice. I will wait for the letter from the PCC and take it from there. I think my only chance for an outright win with POPLA will be the GPEOL.

Dee140157

GPEOL will probably be the winner, but do include all the points in the template they are there for good reason.