accused wrongly by social services

sax11

Will the children be 'handed over' to their mother as per their wishes?

Why can she not come here to have them?

scousedave

sax11 wrote: »

Will the children be 'handed over' to their mother as per their wishes?

Why can she not come here to have them?

I wouldn't say handed over exactly.
We will all be living together...I will only return to the uk for 3 monts for work..
Just trying to find out if I could get into trouble upon my return.
These plans were made wee before ss got involved so we are not running away just doing what wevhad already planned.

LondonGal

Are the police involved with anything? Have you been arrested? If so, this could cause problems.

Social Services have scary powers. There is a case I'm helping with currently where a mother claims to have been falsely accused, her 4 children have been removed to their grandmother. All sorts of horrendous things have happened which SS seem to be able to get away with.

Part of me says be upfront and honest, but knowing SS reputation, and in this case their actions, they might just take the children if they feel they're at risk. Equally they'd probably have done that by now if that were the case.

Are you able to share what you have been accused of?

thorsoak

It would depend upon where in Africa you were intending to take the children - will they be "safe" from health problems, safe from natural catastrophes - ie famine, safe from political uprisings? You do not say how old the children are, nor where they were born or raised - will they be leaving other family members here?

I do know that there are many cultural differences on how African parents raise their children - for instance, my Zimbabwean friend took her 12 year old son to the police for them to beat him for being disrespectful to her mother! Perfectly acceptable in her culture. Not acceptable at all over here.

jetplane

What you are asking is if you leave the country with your children will you be free to come and go to the UK without your children and without repercussion.

No one can answer your question. We don't know what you've been accused of or on what evidence. It may be that what you gave been accused of is acceptable in Africa but not the UK.

I agree that Social Services have the power and capacity to make mistakes. However many parents argue they are falsely accused or misrepresented.

scousedave

It is something not too serious, not abuse or anything like that. They have accused me of having a bad relationship with my children.
This is so far from the truth. I spend at least 5 hours a week with them doing homework, do 8 clubs a week, ensure they have a good diet etc.
They have got things totally wrong but dont think it is beneficial to wait for them to move as it is in our best interests to make the move we had already planned. .

FBaby

The main question is, is SS involved because of concerns about the children that involves you in any way, or not?

I assume they could go to court and request your arrest. If that was the case, it would most likely flag up on the customs system and you would be arrested as you arrive back.

It is a very dangerous move you are making. Either the issue is minor and could be resolved easily and then all be forgotten as you all move to Africa, or it is more serious and you could end up in much more trouble by absconding.

FBaby

Sorry was typing as you posted.
A 'bad' relationship means nothing. Many kids have bad relationships with their parents without SS feels they need to be involved.

They get involved when there is a risk to the children's welfare. How do they think your bad relationship is affecting their welfare?

gizmo111

FBaby wrote: »

The main question is, is SS involved because of concerns about the children that involves you in any way, or not?

I assume they could go to court and request your arrest. If that was the case, it would most likely flag up on the customs system and you would be arrested as you arrive back.

It is a very dangerous move you are making. Either the issue is minor and could be resolved easily and then all be forgotten as you all move to Africa, or it is more serious and you could end up in much more trouble by absconding.

No they cannot go to court for his arrest only the police can do that.

If the children leave the country then they will have no option other than to inform an equivalent service in Africa and close the files over here. Assuming of course that there are no orders on the children in the UK

Alternatively if they are aware of the plans to move then they may apply o the court for an Interim Care Order so that the children remain in this country.

Social services do not get involved in 'bad relationships' they must have been contacted because of other concerns and the relationship is something that has been highlighted during enquiries.

FBaby

Yes, I did mean the police going to court for OP's arrest, realise I said they when previously written SS.

What confuses me in this thread is that OP said previously that the mother had suddenly disappeared, and suspected it was back to her original country, so I am guessing he has got back in touch with her after all and is now happy to rebuild his relationship with her?