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  • craigfit
    craigfit Posts: 31 Forumite
    You should be OK with tablets or phones. Desktop wen browsers are what gets you in trouble for tethering
  • 50Twuncle
    50Twuncle Posts: 10,763 Forumite
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    craigfit wrote: »
    You should be OK with tablets or phones. Desktop wen browsers are what gets you in trouble for tethering

    They CAN tell when you are "tethering"
    Your MAC address gives it away......
    Otherwise how can they limit you to 1Gb @ £5 ?
    I would say that "tethering" is "tethering" and you will be caught and charged!
    My question was what is the difference between a tablet and phone ?
  • JJ_Egan
    JJ_Egan Posts: 20,281 Forumite
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    Their is no legal definition .
    Basically a tablet is recognizable by its size and may not include a phone/ sim component .
    Phablet is just a name given by the press to a very large screen phone .
    Probably the initial handshake identifies the model .
  • 50Twuncle
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    So what's to stop you from using a SIM in a Galaxy Note 8.0 which offers GSM phone as well as the usual tablet stuff - in fact it appears to be virtually the same as my own Note 1 only bigger and faster............
    They can't demand that you use a data SIM
  • ZhugeEX
    ZhugeEX Posts: 1,163 Forumite
    50Twuncle wrote: »
    So what's to stop you from using a SIM in a Galaxy Note 8.0 which offers GSM phone as well as the usual tablet stuff - in fact it appears to be virtually the same as my own Note 1 only bigger and faster............
    They can't demand that you use a data SIM

    Because Samsung class it as a tablet.
    They class the Note 3 as a phone.

    If you want tethering sign up to the £20pm One Plan
  • benjus
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    50Twuncle wrote: »
    They CAN tell when you are "tethering"
    Your MAC address gives it away......
    Otherwise how can they limit you to 1Gb @ £5 ?
    I would say that "tethering" is "tethering" and you will be caught and charged!
    My question was what is the difference between a tablet and phone ?

    How does your MAC address give it away? It's still the phone connecting...

    I haven't done much research on this but I think the phone automatically switches to a different (hidden) APN when you activate tethering, which is how they detect it.

    Using FoxFI seems to work for me in getting around this - although I don't use it a lot as I don't want to pop up on anyone's radar. There are other methods which could be employed to detect tethering (such as examining the network packets) but these are difficult to automate.
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  • 50Twuncle
    50Twuncle Posts: 10,763 Forumite
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    benjus wrote: »
    How does your MAC address give it away? It's still the phone connecting...

    I haven't done much research on this but I think the phone automatically switches to a different (hidden) APN when you activate tethering, which is how they detect it.

    Using FoxFI seems to work for me in getting around this - although I don't use it a lot as I don't want to pop up on anyone's radar. There are other methods which could be employed to detect tethering (such as examining the network packets) but these are difficult to automate.


    Thanks - I will give FoxFI a try !!
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