Arrogant motorcyclists

bod1467

verityboo wrote: »

If he did in 2 seconds a distance which would take 10 sec at 60 mph then he must have been doing 300mph :rotfl:

It doesn't quite add up?

Actually his speed must have been much greater - after all the OP was accelerating to 60 mph at the time too.

Nicklt

I generally don't have an issue with motorcyclists.

However I don't beleive they should be allowed to filter through traffic. Quite a few times have I seen motocyclists filter all the way to the front of traffic at lights, but stop just short of going in front of the front car, when the ligts go green the car pulls off and the biker is right on their side which is a hazard.

Also come across some very rube bikers. I think some may feel like they are hard done by so any little thing a car driver does they think they are being victimised. Not too long ago I was in slow moving traffic doing no more that 5mph, a guy on a scooter comes up fast (doing about 30mph-40mph i would guess) and pulls up right into the small gap between me and the car in front. I had to quickly brake or I would of hit him (although doing 5mph isnt going to do any real damage) he turns round and starts giving me a mouthful pointing at the camera on his head - I basically told him not to just push in, especially as the space was so small.

Azari

kaya wrote: »

So you saw the bike and decided to pull out knowing that he could have been exceeding the speed limit ( like your other half does) and your actions could have caused trouble, but it's his fault for going to* fast

Correct.

You should allow that an approaching vehicle is exceeding the speed limit by a considerable margin but not that it is going at an absurd speed. Otherwise you'd be waiting all day at junction for vehicles that ridiculous distances away just in case they are doing over 100 mph.

Sounds like you are the one suffering arrogance by expecting him to slow down for you despite your "insider knowledge" about speeding motorbikes

No, it sounds as if you are one of those second rate drivers who use a 'one size fits all' approach to road use without understanding the fact that most rules fails in extreme circumstances.


* too

Azari

verityboo wrote: »

If he did in 2 seconds a distance which would take 10 sec at 60 mph then he must have been doing 300mph :rotfl:

It doesn't quite add up?

bod1467 wrote: »

Actually his speed must have been much greater - after all the OP was accelerating to 60 mph at the time too.

You too are being stupidly pedantic.

Given the fact that most of the figures given were estimates and that none would have been either easy or accurate under the circumstances it's entirely unsurprising that the answer does not make sense.

I suspect that the 2 seconds was the time after she had pulled out of the junction and straightened up, a manoeuvre that would normally take 3 - 4 seconds (but seem much quicker because of the concentration involved).

bod1467

Azari wrote: »

You too are being stupidly pedantic.

You are assuming something too ... that I give a fig what you think.

George_Michael

Azari wrote: »

You too are being stupidly pedantic.

Given the fact that most of the figures given were estimates and that none would have been either easy or accurate under the circumstances it's entirely unsurprising that the answer does not make sense.

Why is it being pedantic given that in the opening post the OP stated:

(and yes, I am a physics geek and very good at judging distances!)

Azari

George_Michael wrote: »

Why is it being pedantic given that in the opening post the OP stated:

Because even being a physics geek and being good at judging distances does not confer upon you god like powers in that endeavour.

Although, as I said, I suspect that the main error in the calculation is the the OP significantly under-estimated the time to undertake the manoeuvre, or, more likely, specified the time from when she had straightened out and commenced accelerating.

forgotmyname

They spotted the bike and 2 seconds later he overtook. Says to me they did not look properly and take a second glance to judge the bikes speed. The car would not have travelled far in 2 seconds. Even if it was something exotic with 4 turbo's and launch control.

Aileth. If a car is visible and speeds up then its not an issue because you can see them coming faster than your initial glance. So you wait for them to pass.

Yes I am a driver, Cars, Lorries everything... But i also had a scooter for commuting.

My spider sense is saying to me that the OP thought... He is speeding or shouldnt be going that fast so im going to pull out anyway.
2 seconds??

Buellguy

Nicklt wrote: »

I generally don't have an issue with motorcyclists.

However I don't beleive they should be allowed to filter through traffic


Is perfectly legal and part of the reason I have a motorbike, to beat traffic so long as it is done sensibly


. Quite a few times have I seen motocyclists filter all the way to the front of traffic at lights, but stop just short of going in front of the front car


If it is a pedestrian crossing with zig-zags they are doing the legal thing, filtering past cars is fine, passing the first one in the queue counts as overtaking and is therefore an illegal action


, when the ligts go green the car pulls off and the biker is right on their side which is a hazard.

Also come across some very rube bikers. I think some may feel like they are hard done by so any little thing a car driver does they think they are being victimised. Not too long ago I was in slow moving traffic doing no more that 5mph, a guy on a scooter comes up fast (doing about 30mph-40mph i would guess) and pulls up right into the small gap between me and the car in front. I had to quickly brake or I would of hit him


So you had seen him and were deliberately not allowing him room to pull in following an overtaking manoeuvre, bit naughty that


(although doing 5mph isnt going to do any real damage) he turns round and starts giving me a mouthful pointing at the camera on his head - I basically told him not to just push in, especially as the space was so small.

My bits in red

Nicklt

Buellguy wrote: »

My bits in red

I understand it is legal to filter through traffic I just feel it causes more of a hazard on the road.

Due to the speed he was going at, no I hadn't seen him. I would not purposely stop a motorcyslists overtaking in traffic as that is just petty. The way he reacted implied he did it on purpose. He would of seen me moving forward so she should have judged it not be safe to try and force his way into such a small gap.

I have no issue with motorcycles, it's just the odd arrogant ones. Many a time has a motorcyclist untook me.

There is deffinately an us and them culture between car driver and motorcyclists (and bicycles) and they are both as bad as each other. If you get annoyed by a person going slow on a bicycle you are obviously incredibly impatient or not a very confident driver.