Section 21 Notice and wanting to buy

bouicca21

The best post in this thread is #69. The complete lack of self awareness made the irony so much more delicious that I nearly laughed out loud.

spooky69

It was intended to be funny, so that's good.

pmlindyloo

As someone who has been mentioned I thought I would just add a final post.

I think it is time that this thread was put to rest. I feel that the OP has received advice (some wanted and some not) and it is time to move on.

Unfortunately posting on a forum is always subject to misinterpreting the 'tone' of posters and everything can soon spiral out of control and things are said that shouldn't be.

Spooky, I am sure you realise that some of us get a bit 'protective' of posters who give their time freely and often having specialist knowledge. They can spend long periods of time searching for relevant information and links for people. Yes, I am sure they enjoy doing it (or else presumably they wouldn't do it) but at the same time, answering the same queries over and over again can lead to some of us being a little 'curt' in our replies. (not suggesting you've done that)

Things can easily get interpreted incorrectly. Most posters use the 'Thanks' button to show their appreciation and if you 'Go advanced' then you can find a smiley face to try to put some 'tone' into your words.

Some people don't bother but tell it as it is! It takes all sorts.

If you dislike the way someone has replied then ignore them.

I wish you well (again)

spooky69

Thanks for your response - much appreciated and points taken. I tend to use emoticons a bit more when I am less stressed and rushed!

I agree the thread should be put to rest - I had even asked for no more personal comments but such is life on the internet.

I'll make some use of the thanks button for those who have been helpful.

Pricivius

I asked tenants who wanted to buy to leave before putting my house on the market. There were several reasons and it is generally not recommended to allow the prospective purchaser to inhabit the property prior to completion. Up until the point of completion, the property belongs to me and is my responsibility in terms of repairs, utilities and other legal issues. The tenants could damage the property to devalue it, demand repairs whilst it's still mine and start making changes before it's legally theirs which could cost money to put right if everything falls through.

It can also be very difficult to value a property with tenants in situ, particularly ones who have been there a long time and are probably reluctant to leave. This is worse if they have pets or simply do not "sell" the property well. My tenants had a dog and an enormous amount of furniture which filled every room! I also wanted to carry out some improvments in order to increase the property value and this would not have been possible with the tenants in situ.

spooky69

Pricivius wrote: »

I asked tenants who wanted to buy to leave before putting my house on the market. There were several reasons and it is generally not recommended to allow the prospective purchaser to inhabit the property prior to completion. Up until the point of completion, the property belongs to me and is my responsibility in terms of repairs, utilities and other legal issues. The tenants could damage the property to devalue it, demand repairs whilst it's still mine and start making changes before it's legally theirs which could cost money to put right if everything falls through.

It can also be very difficult to value a property with tenants in situ, particularly ones who have been there a long time and are probably reluctant to leave. This is worse if they have pets or simply do not "sell" the property well. My tenants had a dog and an enormous amount of furniture which filled every room! I also wanted to carry out some improvments in order to increase the property value and this would not have been possible with the tenants in situ.

Interesting. Thanks for daring to post.

I can see your point if improvements are wanted, assuming such improvements would create sufficient increased value to warrant the expense. I do see the logic in certain situations.

Did you have long-term and reliable tenants who wanted to buy but you refused to even discuss a sale with them?

topdaddy_2

spooky69 wrote: »

Having moderated forums for many years I know how this type of situation goes and recognise this type of 'contributor'. It's often easy to spot them by the poor grammar. I'm not going to enter into any more troll feeding.

Anyone with anything helpful or constructive to add is more than welcome to post and their assistance will be gratefully received.

You have an attitude when you was a mod and that? And i dont see no bad grammer.:D Sort your attitude you might sort your problem. But id be shocked if that happens. Press on with the "its everybody but me" stance, worked so far!

Pricivius

spooky69 wrote: »

Interesting. Thanks for daring to post.

I can see your point if improvements are wanted, assuming such improvements would create sufficient increased value to warrant the expense. I do see the logic in certain situations.

Did you have long-term and reliable tenants who wanted to buy but you refused to even discuss a sale with them?

Long-term ish - they had been there just over two years, had paid their rent in full and on time and had not caused any issues (that I knew of at the time). I served the notice and they asked if they could buy, but I couldn't accurately value the property with them in it as it was. Maybe I lost out, maybe they did, but the property is now SSTC for more than I thought I would get. Who knows who won!

spooky69

I am surprised that you didn't ask what they were willing to offer and I thought houses were regularly valued with people living in them. I would have thought by asking what they would offer you would at least know rather than not knowing and losing a potential buyer.

Just 'thinking aloud' - obviously it isn't a point of discussion and I do appreciate your input. It is interesting to see that it appears to be far from unusual, regardless of who the tenant is and the previous history and interaction.

Pricivius

I preferred not to know, to be honest - at least this way I don't know if I won or lost! If they had given me a figure, unless it was crazy good, I was not prepared to gamble.

Houses are valued with occupants, but usually those occupants are the owners who have a considerable vested interest in selling the place. Tenants, on the other hand, particularly those who either don't want to move out or want to buy as cheaply as possible, have no incentive to make the place look good, tidy up, emphasise the good points and generally do everything to increase the value. Rightmove is littered with properties where the tenants clearly made no effort to move their dirty pants off the floor or wash up.