Tenant wants garbage bins cleaned!

mrginge

Annie1960 wrote: »

I am not anti LL, I've just been very surprised (not in a good way) since reading this forum to see the sort of thing tenants have to put up with. Dangerous electrics, no gas safety certificates, fences falling down that LL does not bother repairing, damp, LLs using a key to walk into the property without notice (sometimes into bedrooms when someone is in bed) ... need I go on?

Completely irrelevant to this request.

I understand there are some bad tenants too, but expecting the property and bins to be clean on check-in is reasonable, in my view.

Obviously you have different standards, and would be satisfied if you moved into a property with dirty bins.

Again, your expectation is of no relevance. What is important is -
Does the LL have a statutory responsibility to clean the bins?
Does the tenancy agreement state that the LL is responsible for cleaning the bills?

If the answer to both these is no, then the tenant should be politely told to clean them himself.
If the tenant is then going to kick up a fuss about this then i would suggest the LL arranges for the bins to be cleaned and then raises the rent to cover this additional expense (and a bit of extra profit) at the earliest opportunity.

DKLS

Its a bin all THEY have to do is swish a bit of bleach in it, I would issue an eviction notice asap, this is a bad sign.

londonlydia

I have a lot of tenanted properties on my street, and people keep the bins on the pavement. I would love for some of the tenants to clean their bins (the house isn't in dartford is it?).

If it's new tenants I don't think it's an unreasonable request, it could be that they are attracting pests if they are in very bad nick. It may be better to pay for a decent clean of them then have to deal with rodents, cockroaches or foxes. Also, depending on the property they may not have facilities to clean the bins themselves easily, or maybe the odours may be near a window?

Annie1960

mrginge wrote: »

Completely irrelevant to this request.



Again, your expectation is of no relevance. What is important is -
Does the LL have a statutory responsibility to clean the bins?
Does the tenancy agreement state that the LL is responsible for cleaning the bills?

If the answer to both these is no, then the tenant should be politely told to clean them himself.
If the tenant is then going to kick up a fuss about this then i would suggest the LL arranges for the bins to be cleaned and then raises the rent to cover this additional expense (and a bit of extra profit) at the earliest opportunity.

You are missing the point. It is nothing to do with statutory responsibility.

As the tenant seems to be new, it is an issue connected to check-in. The LL will expect the bins to be left clean on check-out.

mrginge

Annie1960 wrote: »

You are missing the point. It is nothing to do with statutory responsibility.

As the tenant seems to be new, it is an issue connected to check-in. The LL will expect the bins to be left clean on check-out.

No i'm sorry you're making stuff up now.

The LL cannot 'expect' the bins to be left clean on check out unless the state of them is declared as 'clean' on the check in.
If their state is not declared then the tenant can leave them in pretty much any state they want.

Regardless. The only things that can determine if the LL is responsible for their cleanliness throughout the tenancy is the law, the contract, or the LL's goodwill.

topdaddy_2

Why clean a bin? I put rubbish in my bin. Its not clean by its very nature.

totallybored

topdaddy wrote: »

Why clean a bin? I put rubbish in my bin. Its not clean by its very nature.

My bin is quite clean and I don't clean it! However, I recycle properly and food waste goes in the food bin so the wheelie bin doesn't really get anything dirty in it.

sacha28

Pandilex wrote: »

30 seconds with a hosepipe, job done... lol @ 30 quid

Only annoying part from a tenant point of view is when they don't have a hosepipe or other item they'd never use more than once.

My property has an enclosed rear garden but the LL didn't provide a lawnmower. It was fine through winter but now it's grown, so I have to spend 30 quid to buy a cheap strimmer to do it which I will use once.

I don't mind maintaining it but if the LL wants to rent out a property with a garden it might be nice to provide a lawnmower, since my previous property nor my next property are gonna have a garden, and if a property doesn't have a garden it rarely has anywhere to store a mower.

I'm intrigued......did the advert you replied to state a gardener was included? If not, who did you expect to have to maintain the garden?

My previous property had a lawned garden, I bought a 2nd hand mower from the paper so I could keep it tidy, my current property has a garden but no grass so we sold the mower to a work colleague. It's not difficult IMO. I'm not entirely sure what the problem you have is, you chose to rent a house with a garden so surely you would expect to be responsible for it's upkeep?

Paulaviki

I've rented for 7 years and never washed my bins, and I wouldn't dream of asking the landlord to pay for them to be cleaned either. They better not expect them clean when we leave!

jayson043

You could clean them yourself, save yourself £30, or ask the tenant to clean them for £20. You should have been cleaned them after the last tenant, its neighbourly to keep bins clean, rats, flies etc.