How much to pay a live in carer

sh1981

http://www.nhs.uk/CarersDirect/guide/practicalsupport/Pages/Directpayments.aspx

This is what you need.

Indie_Kid

sh1981 wrote: »

I thought carers allowance got paid directly to the carer!

Cattermole isn't talking about carers allowance.

rose28454

cattermole wrote: »

I posted the above post Rosie before I read your latest one.

If you go ahead next weekend and pay her (whatever) that amount is you need to make the document checks and you will be an employer and will need to register with HMRC explain when you phone the new employer helpline you are employing for care and no profit involved. You will need to do a payroll deduct tax, Ni and in addition you will need Employers liability insurance which can be obtained from specialist companies like FISH. There are plenty of payroll services around who for a small cost will run the payroll for you.

Paying someone casually directly who is advertising an hourly rate would be slightly different as presumably they are self employed and declaring their own income to the HMRC. Again I would expect to see a police check if it was someone I didn't know.




All the above is why agencies exist because they are the employer rather than the service user.

Right I have made some progress this morning. I spoke to 2 ladies who do private work by the hour and one is a carer with 15 years experience who has just left a care home after 6 years and is joining another one for mornings doing cleaning as she does not want to work shift. She is looking for casual work and is CRB checked, has certificates and has just done a dementia course. She has references and wants £11.00 per hour. Have arranged to meet her tomorrow with sis to see whats she's like. The other lady is a retired legal secretary who is looking for casual work. She is a self employed artist living locally. Am going to meet her too.
I am a bookkeeper by trade so know how to do wages and check with hmrc as to people's employment status.
Now all I need to do is steel myself to talk to my brother about it

cattermole

Yes the whole thread has been about employment! However if this women is willing to move in with your Mum and her only income be carers allowance I suppose its feasible but it would raise a lot of questions as to why a complete stranger would do this even with free accommodation. Big drop from £500 a week to £60 odd. It could affect other benefits your mum may be receiving as well.

In addition if another adult moves into the house permanently she will loose 25% reduction in her council tax bill. That doesn't apply if its agency staff as they don't live there all the time.

We crossed in the post again

cattermole

rose28454 wrote: »

Right I have made some progress this morning. I spoke to 2 ladies who do private work by the hour and one is a carer with 15 years experience who has just left a care home after 6 years and is joining another one for mornings doing cleaning as she does not want to work shift. She is looking for casual work and is CRB checked, has certificates and has just done a dementia course. She has references and wants £11.00 per hour. Have arranged to meet her tomorrow with sis to see whats she's like. The other lady is a retired legal secretary who is looking for casual work. She is a self employed artist living locally. Am going to meet her too.
I am a bookkeeper by trade so know how to do wages and check with hmrc as to people's employment status.
Now all I need to do is steel myself to talk to my brother about it

Good sounds better £11 an hour is too high I would say if employing direct. Unless we are talking London. As you have niw made us aware if your book-keeping etc and knowledge of employers liabilities great.

If your Mum gets extra hours on a re-assessment she could use a DP if you employ them properly as now being discussed.

So just the Insurance to sort out. Which costs around £135 per annum for the enhanced policy.

margaretclare

rose28454 wrote: »

Right I have made some progress this morning. I spoke to 2 ladies who do private work by the hour and one is a carer with 15 years experience who has just left a care home after 6 years and is joining another one for mornings doing cleaning as she does not want to work shift. She is looking for casual work and is CRB checked, has certificates and has just done a dementia course. She has references and wants £11.00 per hour. Have arranged to meet her tomorrow with sis to see whats she's like. The other lady is a retired legal secretary who is looking for casual work. She is a self employed artist living locally. Am going to meet her too.
I am a bookkeeper by trade so know how to do wages and check with hmrc as to people's employment status.
Now all I need to do is steel myself to talk to my brother about it

My opinion would be: go for the first lady you mentioned. She has experience in the field you want. The other lady has experience in a different field. CRB is important. DH has had to have this for what he does once a week at the library, acting as facilitator for older people who want help with the computer. He doesn't go into their homes, but he still had to have it.

cattermole

I don't think experience is always a pre requisite it can have its disadvantages and she is wanting a lot per hour. Not that I don't think Care Workers should earn more but its a high amount. Also she says she doesn't want to work shifts so may be quite picky about when available to work ie weekends or evenings!

Why not try both then make your mind up and see who your Mum gels best with and its always good to have a back up worker on hand as well.

You can ask the Council or DP support service to CRB check the other lady at a small cost.

sh1981

Indie_Kid wrote: »

Cattermole isn't talking about carers allowance.

Whats she talking about then? I thought carers got carers allowance.

sh1981

I dont see what this lengthy discussion is about. Go to an agency hire a carer get her on carers allowance, simple, done. What's the complication?

nannytone_2

sh1981 wrote: »

I dont see what this lengthy discussion is about. Go to an agency hire a carer get her on carers allowance, simple, done. What's the complication?

you think you can go to an agency, hire a carer and just pay them the carers allowance?
CA is paid as a work repkacement benefit, paid to people that have severly limited opportunity to work because of caring responsibilities.
for someone you employ it is a JOB.
they work for a wage and not an allowance!