How much to pay a live in carer

Morglin

cattermole wrote: »

Its a difficult area of employment law.

Mojosla is totally correct about time off.

I wouldn't contemplate employing direct without at least 4 employees if you are looking at 24/7 care and its highly unlikely she would get that kind of funding as Nanny says


Is there no in between option like sheltered housing with carers on call and on site? With communal activities? A lot of these schemes are coming back now and we have quite a lot recently built in our area They also often gave "extra care" options on site for when the care needs increase in the future .

Not all areas are increasing sheltered schemes, as this borough are phasing them out, all blocks are now for anyone over 40, what was scheme managers are just glorified building maintenance, and the oldies living in these blocks get no help or support at all.

It's basically independence, and very little funding for home care, or a care home, and even with that, unless the person has assets or money to fund the costs, the council are reluctant to act.

I think perhaps it depends on what each borough wants to fund.

Lin

cattermole

Morglin wrote: »

Not all areas are increasing sheltered schemes, as this borough are phasing them out, all blocks are now for anyone over 40, what was scheme managers are just glorified building maintenance, and the oldies living in these blocks get no help or support at all.

It's basically independence, and very little funding for home care, or a care home, and even with that, unless the person has assets or money to fund the costs, the council are reluctant to act.

I think perhaps it depends on what each borough wants to fund.

Lin

Hi Lin yes I'm sure that is right it will vary considerably from Borough to Borough and is only an option if it exists.

cattermole

I can only repeat what I said last night I think confronting your Brother will cause you more grief Ask for a private appointment with the Social Worker and tell them everything you have posted here. It is up to them to safeguard your Mum. You have done as much as you can arguing with siblings for the best for your Mum.

It also sounds as though your brother wants to keep her in the house so the equity left doesn't get used in care costs!

The Social Worker needs to tell him it isn't on for all the reasons we have given here. The only option for a live n care worker would be via agencies who specialise in it and they do it in blocks as explained by Mojosla.

nannytone_2

have you checked that the south african lady is allowed yo work in this country?

Mojisola

nannytone wrote: »

have you checked that the south african lady is allowed yo work in this country?

This is important - you can be fined up to £10,000 for employing someone who doesn't have the right to work here.

Sunshinemummy

Rosie, all I can say is you are LOVELY!

(ps we can send Nerfy to sort your brother out!)

:D:D:D:D

Indie_Kid

cattermole wrote: »

The only option for a live n care worker would be via agencies who specialise in it and they do it in blocks as explained by Mojosla.

This is what my mum does. She's employed by an agency.

sunnyone

What kind of care does your mum need?

Its very diffrent employing someone to be a companion and make a cup of tea to employing someone to give intimate care. To me it makes a big diffrence in cost because I only use properly trained carers for intimate care, its £3ph diffrence to me but I cant skimp and have just a "nice enough woman" to replace my urostomy or care for my pressure issues.

How many hours per week does your mum currently get funded via SS? Four visits per day can be as little as fourteen hours per week and that will leave you with a massive funding gap to even provide a carer while the family takes a break.

Care is very, very expensive and even if you provide a room and board with use of a car 24 hour care will cost hundreds of pounds per week.

cattermole

troubleinparadise wrote: »

A friend of mine used an agency to supply 24/7 care for her mother in her own home. The mum was self-funding, but did receive some payments (attendance allowance etc).

The agency then had the responsibility for the vetting, NI and insurance, plus provided back-up cover for sickness etc (although that wasn't always within a couple of hours - it could take a couple of days to sort). The carer was changed approximately every 6 months.

The carer still needed time off, so additional local cover was sorted for that.

So the house still needed to be maintained, a car provided, and food for the carer as well as mum, along with the usual utilities.

It didn't always run smoothly - illness, carer resigning, incompatibility with the mum - so it certainly still needed ongoing input and overseeing and at times very short notice cover if the carer went abruptly for whatever of the above reasons.

The costs in total were not dissimilar to that of residential care (approximately £2500+ per month) , but worked very well with this person's particular problems - dementia (non-aggressive) and physically able.

"Getting someone to live in" is not the simple solution it might sound, as you are already finding - and I think you rightly have your eyes wide open to the pitfalls. The above at least involved the legal etc issues being the responsibility of an agency (not that that is always without issue) rather than immediate family who might not be savvy with employment law etc and don't want the hassle that might involve. Don't underestimate those issues.

I suspect your biggest problem is your brother!
Good luck

I did it for my daughter employed and managed 24/7 care workers who were all employed by me on her behalf They didn't live in they only did sleep ins on rotas and so did we to cover when needed.

I'm glad I did it for her rather than residential care but it wasn't an easy option for all the reasons you have mentioned and more. It was a full time job managing it all. But one person could never have given her the quality of care she needed 24/7 so glad we did it.

rose28454

nannytone wrote: »

have you checked that the south african lady is allowed yo work in this country?

She is apparently a British Citizen but has been in SA since 1998 and is trying to trace her NI number at the moment. I asked her today when i phoned her.