We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Debate House Prices


In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non MoneySaving matters are no longer permitted. This includes wider debates about general house prices, the economy and politics. As a result, we have taken the decision to keep this board permanently closed, but it remains viewable for users who may find some useful information in it. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Wow!

17810121320

Comments

  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    ed110220 wrote: »
    Not really a good analogy. If there was such a restricted supply of DVDs that fewer and fewer people could afford them...

    Yes, that's obvious.
    I was merely responding to Bantex' drivel.
    Bantex wrote: »
    I know landlords who are paying around £75.00 per month in mortgage interest on places they are renting out for £900 per month.

    £75 per month I/O you say? Can you give a bit more info? Value of property? Rate? Term?
    I'm sure you can provide these as you're so close with those landlords that you know their mortgage costs. Cheers.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Seabee42 wrote: »
    I think some sort of rent control will come in time

    The problem with introducing rent controls is that it doesn't resolve the root cause and could indeed result in a significant impact on the number of available rental properties.

    Decent landlords could end up with the business model not being worthwhile, meaning they leave the market either reducing the rental stock (when there is a need for more) or transferring to other Landlords who may offer alternative business models which maintains returns without necessarily the same quality.
    Seabee42 wrote: »
    because social housing is not being built and housing benefit is soaring.

    This is the root cause. Not enough rental housing.
    The governments stance is to promote private rentals as they cannot afford to instigate a social housing building bill.

    Further government policy tinkering to try and avert a situation caused by social housing sell off will not resolve the matter and likely to make it worse, which is why Cameron opposes it and Milliband is political eering a situation as he sees his party's chances at the next election diminishing.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • ViolaLass
    ViolaLass Posts: 5,764 Forumite
    The couple we rent to would not be able to buy a house unless prices dropped by around 90% (which would require a very different world to the one we live in).

    As such, we're not stopping them buying, just allowing them somewhere to live (with a three-years tenancy) until their situation improves.

    We ourselves would not have wanted to buy until a year-ish before we did - we weren't settled.

    Not everyone wants to buy now.
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    edited 19 May 2014 at 5:19PM
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Yes, that's obvious.
    I was merely responding to Bantex' drivel.



    £75 per month I/O you say? Can you give a bit more info? Value of property? Rate? Term?
    I'm sure you can provide these as you're so close with those landlords that you know their mortgage costs. Cheers.
    Property bought 18 years ago for around £50k. Now worth around £250k. Lifetime tracker at 1% over base IO, last renewed on 25 year basis 2007. LHA property is around £850 per month.

    Any more info required, I will ask.

    Sorry, just checked and LHA is now over £1000 per month. (1 bed flat in lewisham)
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Bantex wrote: »
    Property bought 18 years ago for around £50k. Now worth around £250k. Lifetime tracker at 1% over base IO, last renewed on 25 year basis 2007. LHA property is around £850 per month.

    Any more info required, I will ask.

    Sorry, just checked and LHA is now over £1000 per month. (1 bed flat in lewisham)

    So the message from this is that there is such a shortage of rental properties that LHA (social housing) are pricing the market so high.

    Isn't it coincidental that the property summarised was bought at the complete trough of the market in 1996 and remortgaged at the best time in 2007. Do you honestly think we will swallow that bullsh!t?

    Out of interest, is there another product example where you can pay prices from 18 years ago for a current product?
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Bantex wrote: »
    Property bought 18 years ago for around £50k. Now worth around £250k. Lifetime tracker at 1% over base IO, last renewed on 25 year basis 2007. LHA property is around £850 per month.

    Any more info required, I will ask.
    Isn't it coincidental that the property summarised was bought at the complete trough of the market in 1996 and remortgaged at the best time in 2007. Do you honestly think we will swallow that bullsh!t?

    He probably does. :)
    It's not the first time our dear Bantex was found out to be telling porkies.
    We're still awaiting some clarity on that other thread where he claims there are thousands of acres of unused government land within the M25.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    So the message from this is that there is such a shortage of rental properties that LHA (social housing) are pricing the market so high.

    Isn't it coincidental that the property summarised was bought at the complete trough of the market in 1996 and remortgaged at the best time in 2007. Do you honestly think we will swallow that bullsh!t?

    Out of interest, is there another product example where you can pay prices from 18 years ago for a current product?
    Are you disputing the figures?
    Evereybody was remortgaging every two or threes years inthe mid 2000s as you could get better and better deals so nothing unusual, and if you check, that was the average price for a flat in the area up to around 2000 when prices took off.
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Bantex wrote: »
    Are you disputing the figures?
    Evereybody was remortgaging every two or threes years inthe mid 2000s as you could get better and better deals so nothing unusual, and if you check, that was the average price for a flat in the area up to around 2000 when prices took off.


    Can you answer the question I asked
    Out of interest, is there another product example where you can pay prices from 18 years ago for a current product?
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Bantex wrote: »
    I know landlords who are paying around £75.00 per month in mortgage interest on places they are renting out for £900 per month.
    Bantex wrote: »
    Property bought 18 years ago for around £50k. Now worth around £250k. Lifetime tracker at 1% over base IO, last renewed on 25 year basis 2007. LHA property is around £850 per month.

    As you were using the plural landlords, I assume those other landlords also - coincidentally - bought in the middle of the trough?

    It's amazing though, the amount of financial detail you have about people you describe on here as parasites. It's stuff I don't even know about my closest friends.

    But ok, I believe you. :rotfl:
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    Can you answer the question I asked
    not sure what your question means, but if a bought a car 18 years ago I would not expect to be able to hire it out at current rental prices.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 245K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.4K Life & Family
  • 258.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.