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The Coming Zombie Robot Driving Apocalypse of You

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  • globalds
    globalds Posts: 9,431 Forumite
    It seems apt that if I am going to revive a thread ...it should be a zombie thread :)

    I saw this

    Humans Need Not Apply

    And it gives a really simple yet in my opinion pretty accurate account of not only some of the really critical changes ..But more concerning the pace of change.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Thanks globalds, interesting piece.

    I wonder how this is all going to end up. Interesting times eh?
  • If you want some reading on the topic I would recommend 'The lights in the tunnel' by Martin Ford. Very interesting and similar sorts of predictions.

    Some aspects of what they say about medicine are already coming true (outsourcing of radiology film reporting to india etc. has started part 2 of computers taking over from there is taking a bit longer, but image recognition has always been a problem for computers).
  • Generali wrote: »
    http://telezkope.com/Politics/Politics/1620822/should-a-robot-sacrifice-your-life-to-save-two


    Well should it? Should the fact that you've paid good money for a robot mean it should value your life more highly than another's? If 2 people aren't worth you then what about a bus load of pensioners or of kids or The Cabinet?


    Should your robot be trying to save your life regardless?

    I think Will Smith played the lead role in this film
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Generali wrote: »
    http://telezkope.com/Politics/Politics/1620822/should-a-robot-sacrifice-your-life-to-save-two


    Well should it? Should the fact that you've paid good money for a robot mean it should value your life more highly than another's? If 2 people aren't worth you then what about a bus load of pensioners or of kids or The Cabinet?


    Should your robot be trying to save your life regardless?

    I wonder if the question is mute.
    If the automated vehicle controls the cars to minimalist the impact of death, then why would there need to be a collision in the first place.

    I've often pondered about jumping in the car, setting the Sat-Nav and then reading a book as the automated vehicle drives me safely home.

    Having an automated vehicle system may be boring to some but I would hazard a guess it would speed up travel overall as you would not need traffic light systems and there would be greater flow.

    think about motorways that get backed up for nothing than someone starting of a braking manoeuvre.
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • globalds
    globalds Posts: 9,431 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Thanks globalds, interesting piece.

    I wonder how this is all going to end up. Interesting times eh?

    I know I keep stressing the point ..But it is the rate of change that will be the kicker.

    It is the exponential we as humans struggle with ,this doubling upon doubling is leaving us unaware of the massive steps now being taken with each advancement.

    We have done two things that although quite right and I wouldn't have chosen anything else might now ..If we can't reconsider these principle things , cause some real social problems when we try to solve this next dilemma.

    First is the attitude to unemployment ~ like I said I think shirkers and skivers need to be frowned on by society ~ But when the Zombie robots start taking over for example almost all transport jobs ..we have to have a plan in place for these people and it probably won't be a new job.

    Second point in the same dilemma is how we pass the cash around the system ..wages were part of that work and reward system ..but we are going to have to find ways of rewarding other services .. parenthood maybe or just a dividend ?
    But no money swilling around will break our system as fast as the zombies are making it better.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    We forget one of the big drivers for technological change, that being military advances.

    The pressures for the USA to retain a fighting presence in the middle East shows no sign of relenting, yet they are still scarred with the Vietnam era images of US soldiers being returned in coffins.

    How long will it be before we see effective robotic soldiers as an answer to this dilemma ?

    Drones will get ever more advanced and independent too. Once the infantryman becomes used to serving alongside robots, there will be less resistance to working alongside them in shops and factories.
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,136 Forumite
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    globalds wrote: »
    It seems apt that if I am going to revive a thread ...it should be a zombie thread :)

    I saw this

    Humans Need Not Apply

    And it gives a really simple yet in my opinion pretty accurate account of not only some of the really critical changes ..But more concerning the pace of change.

    I think it is even more profound than the vid suggests. WE are getting more and more accustomed to allowing 'experts' to take decisions for us, not just doctors but teachers, social workers etc etc

    Pretty soon 'machine intelligence' will have surpassed what humans can decide in many situations so if we then do the sensible thing and hand over our decision making to the artificial brains we end up effectively as pets, having been out evolved by our creations.
    I think....
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
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    globalds wrote: »
    The Robot would not kill you if it obeys the rules

    Zeroth law.
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Some of the more savvy, commercial aware robots will spot the opportunity for sponsorship from some of the auto manufacturers.

    Citroen C3-Picassi-O
    Audi Rs2-D2
    Peugeot Ed209

    :D
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