The Coming Zombie Robot Driving Apocalypse of You

Generali

cells wrote: »

I don't think 200k miles life for a human cars is at all average, my last car I scrapped at 95k miles and the one before that at 60k miles.

also internet search says average age of scraped cars is ~13years and average mileage is less than 8000 miles per car which would put the average mileage done by an average car at around 105k miles which sounds much more correct to me than your suggested 200k miles


If the current fleet of cars can be replaced by 10 million robo cars that would put the average robo-car at about 27k miles a year

So yes a million miles life does seem too high for an average, however the take away point wasn't that robo cars would do a million miles on average, the point was that the capital cost per mile will drop

So we currently have something like, ~£15k for the car and ~100,000 miles = 15p a mile capital cost

Average Robo cars might have something like 250,000 miles life which would bring the capital cost down from 15p a mile to 6p a mile


As you can see, the fall fom 15p to 6p a mile is still very dramatic and represents a greater saving than the total cost of fuel

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but I still think in the transition period before full adoption will see higher utilization of robo taxis

the comparison now would be taxis which are shared by 2 drivers, they do maybe close to 100,000 miles a year and the robo taxis would work at an even higher utilization.

Don't forget that Northern Europe is very hard on cars due to the grit put on the road. In Aus I'd expect a city car to last 200,000kms minimum and you regularly see ex-taxis up for sale (possibly more analogous to a Zombie Robot?) with the best part of half a million kms on the clock!

antrobus

Thrugelmir wrote: »

What does a car cost to own though? With the advent of PCP everybody wants a new car.

Depends on the car, and how you're going to use it, I imagine.

People are often faced with rent/buy decisions as far as transport is concerned. What I'm getting at, is that I'm not convinced that the advent of robo-cars wil necessarily change the economics behind that decision making.

cells

http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2015/03/19/tesla-motors-elon-musk-model-s-autonomous-driving-range-anxiety/25018491/


Tesla offer kind of self drive within 3 months

Generali

cells wrote: »

http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2015/03/19/tesla-motors-elon-musk-model-s-autonomous-driving-range-anxiety/25018491/


Tesla offer kind of self drive within 3 months

The Zombie Robots are coming.

purch

He said that in testing, the company can almost drive from San Francisco to Seattle without the driver doing anything

If you don't include the head on collision as the Car leaves the Tesla factory in San Francisco, it "almost" made it to Seattle :eek:

purch

Self-driving car accidents revealed in California

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32691887

Four out of the 48 self-driving cars on public roads in California have been involved in accidents in the last eight months, according to the state's Department of Motor Vehicles.

It was a good idea whilst it lasted :eek:

cells

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30998361

Forget buying an electric-powered Tesla, sharing a Zipcar or hiring an Uber - the most disruptive force in getting from A to B on four wheels could be cars that own themselves.

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interesting idea but there is no need to automate the self drive taxi fleets to that extent. Having an office of 500 people managing and running a fleet of 10 million self drive taxis is quite affordable