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Amazon Logistics (rant)

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  • Chrysalis
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    yes as I have ordered amazon pantry before as well.

    Doesnt matter whats been delivered, it can be organised in set routes, and set routes means estimated times can be provided, in addition a GPS tracker is not exactly difficult to implement.
  • custardy
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    Chrysalis wrote: »
    yes as I have ordered amazon pantry before as well.

    Doesnt matter whats been delivered, it can be organised in set routes, and set routes means estimated times can be provided, in addition a GPS tracker is not exactly difficult to implement.

    Sorry,Im starting to think you aren't being serious now.
    Do you have a concept on the size of routes a supermarket run is vs a norm multi drop route?
    They are completely different sizes and requirements. So because its a food order from Amazon,its comparable to a supermarkets delivery set up?

    FYI,DPD invested millions to create their predictor set up. If a GPS tracker is easy,why spend that money?
  • Feral_Moon
    Feral_Moon Posts: 2,943 Forumite
    Chrysalis wrote: »
    yes as I have ordered amazon pantry before as well.

    Doesnt matter whats been delivered, it can be organised in set routes, and set routes means estimated times can be provided, in addition a GPS tracker is not exactly difficult to implement.

    You really have no clue how couriers work! I already told you these couriers are self employed. They don't have set routes. They can deliver in what order and whenever they like, within the operative window.

    Out of the companies I mentioned earlier, only Hermes have implemented an ETA system, and only certain clients have signed up for it. But even then, you only get provided with a 4 hour window.

    And as for Amazon being expensive for delivery, as a Prime customer, I haven't paid for delivery for several years now.
  • Chrysalis
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    Both the previous posters are fail, when I reveal to them I have worked for a courier.

    So lets take a step back.

    Just to clarify.

    Are you both stating these 2 things are not possible for a parcel delivery company?

    1 - Having set routes for each driver to follow during deliveries
    2 - Having each driver GPS tracked.

    Think long and hard about your answer before I reply again, the question as I said do you think courier companies are not capable of doing the above 2 things? Yes I mean companies that deliver parcels for variety of goods, so not just supermarkets.

    Also prime customers pay for deliveries via 2 fee's subscription fee, and markup of price on prime goods. If you think otherwise you a bit niave.
  • custardy
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    edited 3 December 2017 at 11:03AM
    Chrysalis wrote: »
    Both the previous posters are fail, when I reveal to them I have worked for a courier.

    So lets take a step back.

    Just to clarify.

    Are you both stating these 2 things are not possible for a parcel delivery company?

    1 - Having set routes for each driver to follow during deliveries
    2 - Having each driver GPS tracked.

    Think long and hard about your answer before I reply again, the question as I said do you think courier companies are not capable of doing the above 2 things? Yes I mean companies that deliver parcels for variety of goods, so not just supermarkets.

    Also prime customers pay for deliveries via 2 fee's subscription fee, and markup of price on prime goods. If you think otherwise you a bit niave.

    GPS tracked for the company/customer or recipient? If its for the recipient,who is paying for the costs? What does the courier location tell the recipient?
    How do you offer set routes for contractors who can deliver at their leisure/timescales? What about collections?
  • Hedgehog99
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    Over a few months, I had several of a neighbour's parcels dumped in my garden by Amazon Logistics couriers. Of course I wasn't expecting them, so I didn't know they were there (they fell down amongst bushes etc) until I was next gardening etc.

    It took two communications with Amazon to try and stop this happening and in the end I had to put a big sign on the gate saying "Do not deliver parcels for number x here".
  • LadyDee
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    Chrysalis wrote: »
    yes as I have ordered amazon pantry before as well.

    Doesnt matter whats been delivered, it can be organised in set routes, and set routes means estimated times can be provided, in addition a GPS tracker is not exactly difficult to implement.

    Depends where you live. I'm on a rambling development of many acres, unmade roads without names, just areas, numbering all over the place, and I have seen these poor delivery people driving round for ages trying to find a particular address. One DPD driver told me he's been half an hour trying to find me!

    When I've spotted a delivery driver go past twice looking lost I go outside and try to direct him. I feel really sorry for some of these drivers, they get all sorts of abuse.

    Main roads all around for miles with roadworks, temporary traffic lights, traffic piled up. Rotten job I should think which, on the whole, they do remarkably well for little reward.
  • neilmcl
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    Chrysalis wrote: »
    Also prime customers pay for deliveries via 2 fee's subscription fee, and markup of price on prime goods. If you think otherwise you a bit niave.
    What on earth are you on about. There is no "markup" on prime supplied goods, they can be as cheap or otherwise as any other item sold on Amazon. And as far as the subscription goes that easily pays for itself, particularly as most Prime customers use the other services provided by the sub. You really are showing your complete ignorance on this thread.
  • Doc_N
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    neilmcl wrote: »
    What on earth are you on about. There is no "markup" on prime supplied goods, they can be as cheap or otherwise as any other item sold on Amazon. And as far as the subscription goes that easily pays for itself, particularly as most Prime customers use the other services provided by the sub. You really are showing your complete ignorance on this thread.

    I see exactly what's meant. Amazon Prime items, particularly the smaller ones, are frequently sold at much higher prices than they can be bought for elsewhere - even from the same seller.

    eBay's more often than not cheaper than Amazon, and part of the reason for that is Amazon's passing on part of the delivery cost to Prime customers.

    Then, of course, there are the infamous add-on items where you have to spend £20 to get a 'free' Prime delivery.

    Don't get me wrong - I still consider Prime to be worth having (though it does allow me to share with my children, who live elsewhere) but it isn't quite what Amazon crack it up to be.
  • custardy
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    Doc_N wrote: »
    I see exactly what's meant. Amazon Prime items, particularly the smaller ones, are frequently sold at much higher prices than they can be bought for elsewhere - even from the same seller.

    eBay's more often than not cheaper than Amazon, and part of the reason for that is Amazon's passing on part of the delivery cost to Prime customers.

    Then, of course, there are the infamous add-on items where you have to spend £20 to get a 'free' Prime delivery.

    Don't get me wrong - I still consider Prime to be worth having (though it does allow me to share with my children, who live elsewhere) but it isn't quite what Amazon crack it up to be.

    Amazon also IME always list if they have the item listed cheaper without prime.
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