PCN in Motability Car

Chillerhippie

ColliesCarer wrote: »

So if Excel challenge it you will get an evidence pack near the date of assessment - when it arrives check it for anything you want to further challenge/bring to the assessors attention and submit a further letter to POPLA before the assessment date highlighting anything you want to make sure they are made aware of.

Bloody hell as if!

They really make you jump through hoops don't they?

The thing is, what evidence can they provide since everything I have already requested must be for the date (i.e evidence for the signs and the cameras MUST be for the date and times that the alleged offence took place. I very much doubt that they have that sort of evidence.

I wish I had a scanner, I would upload the original PCN to back up my claim on 5 (Notice to Keeper not properly given under POFA 2012)

Coupon-mad

They'll send a document of their 'legal arguments' and 'costs statement' pretending that's their losses. That's what you then email POPLA to object to - saying 'look POPLA, hope you have spotted this list of costs from Excel is not a GPEOL at all and this calculation is new, contrived and was not their intention prior to this PCN?!'

There will be more to it than that, look, this will be your final hurdle to jump:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4925895

Post #24 onwards.

ColliesCarer

Chillerhippie wrote: »

Bloody hell as if!

They really make you jump through hoops don't they?

Lol - well you don't have to send a further letter but it can be useful to make sure the assessor is aware of (and can quickly identify) the failings in the evidence they've supplied.

Chillerhippie wrote: »

The thing is, what evidence can they provide since everything I have already requested must be for the date (i.e evidence for the signs and the cameras MUST be for the date and times that the alleged offence took place. I very much doubt that they have that sort of evidence.

If they're going to respond to your appeal they have to provide evidence to disprove each and every challenge you have raised otherwise you win.

Parking companies have been known to supply witness statements (signed by unknown and unauthorised people) instead of the contract with the landowner, photos of signs and maps for totally different locations etc.

So you can check whether what they have supplied is what you requested and whether they have failed to supply anything at all for any of the points you raised - then you can bring it to the attention of the assessor.

The main thing to check is what they have supplied to try prove a GPEOL (as Coupon-mad has pointed out) because that is the point a large number of appeals win on.

Chillerhippie

Just sent it using the online submission page on the Popla site.

Should I post a copy too or would that confuse things?

ColliesCarer

Just the on-line submission will be ok.
You'll get an initial acknowledgement from London councils to the email address you supplied - they have the POPLA contract - and then one from POPLA giving you a date when the appeal will be assessed.

Evidence pack - if the PPC respond will be sent out usually quite close to the date of the assessment

bod1467

ColliesCarer wrote: »

Evidence pack - if the PPC respond will be sent out usually quite close to the date of the assessment

But should be sent out at least 7 days prior to the assessment, to give you time to review and counter-point as necessary. However not all PPCs abide by this rule, and POPLA and the BPA don't seem to care either.