Parked in front of Driveway

gplinge

The OP may have been unlucky - I suspect this one is a case that someone has decided "something must be done" - the road is a cul-de-sac yet has yellow lines (in various states of disrepair) right around the end - which seems to have a pedestrian cut through to a pre-school and primary school.
The times on the plates for the yellow lines are Mon-Fri 0800-0900 and 1430-1630 which look very much like a message to discourage parking for drop off / pick up at the schools

Asking Mr. Google suggests the council have been involved since around 2007 when they extended the parking restrictions to allow more room for turning as a safety measure

Coupon-mad

So if it's Council decrim parking there, why was a PCSO getting involved in a civil matter of a driveway which isn't their remit?

Nodding_Donkey

carandbike wrote: »

Or how about; only an inconsiderate person paves the whole of their front garden and considers it is a driveway when clearly it's a car park, and thereby reduces the on road parking opportunities and spaces for anyone else using the road, just so they can have convenient ones by their front door.

Who is the more selfish?

But by doing that they allow two or three cars two park in the length of road normally taken up by one

Coupon-mad

Nodding_Donkey wrote: »

But by doing that they allow two or three cars two park in the length of road normally taken up by one

Not in my road they don't! They merely create a hard standing for one car but the stupid dropped kerbs are so close together that there's only space to park a toy car in the gaps. Pathetic and selfish I think, seeing as my road and the general area saw off the Council a couple of years ago and stopped them putting in a parking scheme, but the idiots that live here just panicked and threw money at dropped kerbs 'just in case the Council impose a parking scheme'. Daft.

Luckily, I and some other neighbours know the rules, i.e. (here in this part of Sussex) you can park on a white H line as long as you aren't in front of the flat part of the kerb.

sophieschoice

Coupon-mad wrote: »

So if it's Council decrim parking there, why was a PCSO getting involved in a civil matter of a driveway which isn't their remit?

Because a lot of forces gave powers to pcso's to deal with obstructions. Presumably because they're on the spot so to speak.
Example here
http://www.police-life.co.uk/story/2013/04/17/extending-pcso-powers

Coupon-mad

Yep I know. But how is that obstruction when it's such a large driveway - it's a classic dropped kerb contravention, a civil matter.

esmerobbo

Question for the OP I see there is a local pre school along a footpath from that close, is there a problem with people parking whilst picking up/dropping off kids?

May explain the presence of a PCSO if residents are complaining, looks like it could be a NIMBY case!

Guys_Dad

Seems to me that we are unable to help the OP constructively as we are just speculating and taking positions as to whether we think they are hard done by or an inconsiderate parker.

Seems that there are things going on behind the scenes with mums, schools, cars and residents - a common situation all over the UK.

I guess it depends upon whether you are the victim of obstructive parking in the past or a parent who wants to protect their kids and ensure they get to school safely.

Personally - been both and my views change according to the situation !!!!!!!!!!!!

iliko

esmerobbo wrote: »

Question for the OP I see there is a local pre school along a footpath from that close, is there a problem with people parking whilst picking up/dropping off kids?

May explain the presence of a PCSO if residents are complaining, looks like it could be a NIMBY case!

It is 3-rd year we parents use the Northbourne close to park cars for to drop off kids and never had any issues. It seems to me the PCSO were there and was telling parents not to stop but could not reach me because he was at the bottom of road.
I am sure even if I stopped here or here he would give me a FPN leading me to think he does not fully understands what he is doing. It looks like he has been ordered to go and "satisfy" residents of the close which looks like raised it before.

Does anyone know if there is a mechanism to influence on the PSCO issued the FPN and get a clarification/justification by complaining to the police and maybe canceling the FPN?
BTW I am still waiting him to contact me.

Coupon-mad

Does anyone know if there is a mechanism to influence on the PSCO issued the FPN and get a clarification/justification by complaining to the police and maybe canceling the FPN?

Yes, in person at the Police Station as I advised at first - I said that because it can work, seen it before on threads. Be polite but point out the issues, let them see it. Apart from that, the FPN tells you the 'mechanism' for appeal - which includes Maggies Court and IS NOT considered worth trying if the Police (in person - you do not need the PCSO) refuse to screw it up & chuck it in the bin when you point out the issues with it, which are summarised well by AoD:

AoD wrote: »

Converting your front garden into a car park does not automatically turn it into a drive though. The original drive way in front of the dropped kerb can clearly be seen in the photo and the kerb is clearly higher in front of the limo.

I still don't think £30 is worth a fight in a magistrates court tho!

Finally, did you not realise you an stop on a single/double yellow temporarily (as long as there are not kerb blips as well) to assist a child into premises? I find it odd that people avoid yellow lines like the plague, when in fact they don't have to if they know the Council PCN rules about assisted alighting (Google it).