Parked in front of Driveway

esmerobbo

iliko wrote: »

It doesn't say so on the notice paper.

It says offence code RC86405 which is causing an unnecessary obstruction.

The "Parked in front of driveway" is the reason they believe you were causing the offence.

However as Coupon Mad says the FPN does look a bit ropey, wait and see if its genuine.

esmerobbo

That Limo was in that position in May 2012 and there is a better view of the kerb which does indeed raise.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.429323,-0.926746,3a,75y,180h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjp-WC3YlzDJFC465yhkelw!2e0

However whether it's worth the risk of arguing the point in court would be down to the OP.

carandbike

keith1950 wrote: »

... only an inconsiderate person would consider blocking someone's car in !!

Or how about; only an inconsiderate person paves the whole of their front garden and considers it is a driveway when clearly it's a car park, and thereby reduces the on road parking opportunities and spaces for anyone else using the road, just so they can have convenient ones by their front door.

Who is the more selfish?

gplinge

Is it definitely a public road ?
Following in from the main road, via Thanington Way then as you turn into Northbourne Close, you can see a row of cobbles across the road - similar to what you often see where a public road ends and a private road starts.

You will also notice that up to this point there are pavements on both sides of the road, but once you get into the close there appear to be no pavements - indeed the house opposite the limo has bushes right up to the road.

Coupon-mad

carandbike wrote: »

Or how about; only an inconsiderate person paves the whole of their front garden and considers it is a driveway when clearly it's a car park, and thereby reduces the on road parking opportunities and spaces for anyone else using the road, just so they can have convenient ones by their front door.

Who is the more selfish?

Good point well made! :T

iliko

gplinge wrote: »

Is it definitely a public road ?
Following in from the main road, via Thanington Way then as you turn into Northbourne Close, you can see a row of cobbles across the road - similar to what you often see where a public road ends and a private road starts.

You will also notice that up to this point there are pavements on both sides of the road, but once you get into the close there appear to be no pavements - indeed the house opposite the limo has bushes right up to the road.

If you look further down the road you will see no stopping sign which you would not have on a private road would you? On the other hand there must be a signage indicating that it is private. Also I have been using this road for years now.

gplinge

Not aware that there must be signs for a private road - or it's possible the council adopted the road at a later date.
I was merely observing there seems to be a significant change as you enter the close - the pavements which exist up to the cobbled line in the road suddenly stop, and it appears, at least from the Google maps images, that the road surface also changes which might indicate that at least some time in the past the road was not a public road.

In the absence of pavements, it is possible the individual properties own the land up to the road so an argument about driving over the pavement would be moot.

If it is a private road, then there is nothing to stop yellow lines being painted on it, they'd just be somewhat difficult to enforce

Coupon-mad

If it's an unadopted road then that's another point to say at the Police station when waving the badly-written thing under their nose (politely) and wondering why on earth a PCSO is issuing a driveway PCN that should in almost every county, be the remit of a Council and is a civil matter.

iliko

gplinge wrote: »

Not aware that there must be signs for a private road - or it's possible the council adopted the road at a later date.
I was merely observing there seems to be a significant change as you enter the close - the pavements which exist up to the cobbled line in the road suddenly stop, and it appears, at least from the Google maps images, that the road surface also changes which might indicate that at least some time in the past the road was not a public road.

In the absence of pavements, it is possible the individual properties own the land up to the road so an argument about driving over the pavement would be moot.

If it is a private road, then there is nothing to stop yellow lines being painted on it, they'd just be somewhat difficult to enforce

I am not sure if it was private before but judging by documents on Borough's site it looks like public road now.

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As there is no pavement there is nothing stopping the homeowner from dropping the edge stones of their garden to road level.

Also that whole cul-de-sac/road is a bad design. Driveways/gardens backing straight onto the road with no footpath around.