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Attempted presure selling

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  • nobbysn*ts
    nobbysn*ts Posts: 1,176 Forumite
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    Car dealers are mostly like all the rest of the population. Most are complete tw*ts, some aren't. Mostly, as more car dealers are tw*ts then the normal percentage of the population.
  • Ectophile
    Ectophile Posts: 7,972 Forumite
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    it works, some people will run the other way when they feelt they're being "sold", but for people who remotely want the car and have the cash - it works.

    I guess it saves their time too, because the timewasters will run a mile - i bet garages get idiots who just come in for test drives and no intention of buying so they have to pressure sell to identify genuine buyers

    Are you a salesman trying to convince yourself that you are doing it right?

    I hate pushy salesmen. I will always walk out if I'm being pressured even if I want the product. There is always someone else who will sell me the product and won't try to pressure me into buying.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • F1F93
    F1F93 Posts: 366 Forumite
    I had a VERY pushy and, quite frankly, rude salesman from a Ford dealer in Slough. My MIL2B's car had broken down and it was not economical to repair it, so it was scrapped and I said that I'd look at car's for her, then give her my recommendation based on space, economy, price etc.

    As soon as I stepped out of my car, I was approached by a salesman who was just standing around outside the dealership. He asked me what car I was looking at, then led me straight to my car of choice, a Ford KA. I was asked who it was for (my Fiancee was with me at the time) and when I said, he looked shocked. "What? Where is she then? How can I sell her a car when she isn't here?" He then asked for her rough budget. I said a low deposit and about £150 a month. He then replied with "we don't have any cars for that" and walked off.

    Now I know for a fact that that was a lie. A Ford KA base spec can easily be had for as little as £149 a month with a £149 deposit. I've even seen a Fiesta for £150 a month with a £500 deposit before. Absolutely terrible salesman.


    On the other hand, when I purchased my current car, the salesman was brilliant. Not pushy at all and, if anything, slightly cocky, but in a good way (if that makes sense!). He was a right laugh too which helped. He acted as if he'd as good as sold me the car - (swapped keys immediately so he could check out my part-ex, making funny comments like "ahh, you'll take it, I'll make sure of it!" etc) but he took no for an answer - I said I wanted to think about it and I'd call him the next day, and he was completely fine with it. No trying to pressure sell anything.

    Again with the added extras (like GAP insurance etc). Mentioned it (as they always do) but as soon as I mentioned that I had it cheaper, he dropped it. Other dealers kept on going on about how theirs was better... :wall:
  • Hintza
    Hintza Posts: 19,420 Forumite
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    motorguy wrote: »
    Other than turning a salvaged write off into something roadworthy. ;)
    But I have a man that does.

    The only problem is he is a glass half full sort of person which I have found isn't a great attribute when it comes to salvage, so I have to build in a chunky contingency element.
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,611 Forumite
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    Hintza wrote: »
    But I have a man that does.

    The only problem is he is a glass half full sort of person which I have found isn't a great attribute when it comes to salvage, so I have to build in a chunky contingency element.

    Yes. i've the same problem with my bodyman.

    He "sourced" this for me and reckoned he could have it on the road again for £500....

    ToledoBefore.jpg

    ... needless to say we went over budget. :eek:
  • 1jim
    1jim Posts: 2,683 Forumite
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    Op, that's where the online brokers are really good (if it's a new car)

    I saved a load in my Kia sportage (and then on a picanto) by using the online brokers, they put you in touch with a dealer who deals with it from there. The dealers I have used buying cars this way don't seem to try and of the hard sell, they don't try and get you to add in lots of extras, paint protection, scotch guard, etc etc, they seem to understand that you are a savvy buyer and know that the products don't add anything to the deal or can be obtained cheaper elsewhere so they have all just ticked the boxes not wanted/needed without any trouble.
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,611 Forumite
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    1jim wrote: »
    Op, that's where the online brokers are really good (if it's a new car)

    I saved a load in my Kia sportage (and then on a picanto) by using the online brokers, they put you in touch with a dealer who deals with it from there. The dealers I have used buying cars this way don't seem to try and of the hard sell, they don't try and get you to add in lots of extras, paint protection, scotch guard, etc etc, they seem to understand that you are a savvy buyer and know that the products don't add anything to the deal or can be obtained cheaper elsewhere so they have all just ticked the boxes not wanted/needed without any trouble.

    Its that they typically work through the fleet part of the business whereby they sell on numbers, not on profit.

    There is extremely little profit in new cars these days. Everyone expects a big discount and most people dont care for loyalty to a dealer they just buy on the best price. So when you do get someone to buy then you really need to sell them finance, paint protection, service packs, scotch guard, etc, to make it worthwhile even being in business.

    Its also worth point out that say, 20 years ago people would maybe hit for or 5 dealers before they made a decision to buy, therefore there was an opportunity to get them back, tweak the deal, etc.

    These days statistically its 1 or 2 dealers they visit, and they'll have their "homework done" in advance. Most people are ready to buy that day, so let them leave the showroom and they'll not be back because they'll have went somewhere else and saved an extra tenner.

    Also, salesmen now have to report back to their sales manager daily / weekly as to who was in the showroom, what they looked at and why the salesman didnt close the sale.
  • salubrious
    salubrious Posts: 210 Forumite
    For me it's fun listening to a salesman and then tying them up in knots with their own waffle.

    I do work in the trade though, so it's not daunting for me to tackle these people like that.

    Just remember, you are the person in the position of power not them.
  • Bantex_2
    Bantex_2 Posts: 3,317 Forumite
    They can only pressurise you if you let them. Just be non commital, and say exactly what you require.
  • Bantex wrote: »
    Why not?...

    Why reward them?
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