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How is it easier to get a job when you already have one?

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  • System
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    Hmm

    Thinking about it, could it be easier from the perspective that in a job, you can choose when and what you apply for, but unemployed you have the job centre to deal with and this more pressure? You obviously have to do exactly what they tell you, including applying for jobs you might not normally choose too, whereas if you have a job you have more choice?

    That's what I always thought was meant by it
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  • t0rt0ise
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    In the NHS they usually want someone with recent experience, and the longer you are unemployed and getting further away from 'recent', the harder it gets.
  • mattcanary
    mattcanary Posts: 4,420 Forumite
    Difficult to get time off for an interview if you are already in work.

    That should make it easier for unemployed people to find a job. If you are in work then I expect that some people lie to their current employer in order to attend an interview at short notice. People that are unemployed clearly don;t need to do this.

    Unfortunately, recruiters don;t seem to take this into account and often expect to employ people that are already working.
  • AP007 wrote: »
    It that using company equipment and services to help with your job search? Sackable offfence surely in most places I know.



    Totally agree, my new company probably has the right idea


    Apart from company webpage, access to internet is strictly prohibited you can't even attempt it, error message comes up and it gets logged and I don't have word function on the station I'm at


    I've work documents to print off Monday and know that is going to be traumatic no idea where the printer is lol - I'd love to have been able to send home to get printed off save the hassle let alone anything more personal but absolutely couldn't take the risk, so something tells me Falko also doesn't have these facilities at work..


    As the boss says you are paid to work, if you caught on the telephone making personal calls, it's your funeral type of company! ouch!
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    t0rt0ise wrote: »
    In the NHS they usually want someone with recent experience, and the longer you are unemployed and getting further away from 'recent', the harder it gets.
    I don't get all this recent experience crap.

    Nothing has chnaged that much in the work place. If we take for example accouting software. I was at my old company for 5 years and we hadn't had an update in 8 years and were still using Microsoft Office 2003.

    If I had looked for a new job in say 2010 I wouldn't have been up to date with Excel or Word or Agresso (accounting system) due to the company not investing the money.
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  • whodathunkit
    whodathunkit Posts: 1,130 Forumite
    mattcanary wrote: »
    Difficult to get time off for an interview if you are already in work.

    That should make it easier for unemployed people to find a job. If you are in work then I expect that some people lie to their current employer in order to attend an interview at short notice. People that are unemployed clearly don;t need to do this.

    Unfortunately, recruiters don;t seem to take this into account and often expect to employ people that are already working.

    I've never had any problem being able to take time off for an interview, even if it's meant taking a day's leave.
  • falko89
    falko89 Posts: 1,687 Forumite
    I've never had any problem being able to take time off for an interview, even if it's meant taking a day's leave.



    I had an interview last week, even better was 2 other guys I work with also had an interview at the same company, all 15 mins apart, I had a bad dose of the runs, another had a toothache another problem with kids, they are bound to have known something was up but hey ho stuff them, I'll continue making up rubbish if I have an interview somewhere.
  • AP007
    AP007 Posts: 7,109 Forumite
    falko89 wrote: »
    I had an interview last week, even better was 2 other guys I work with also had an interview at the same company, all 15 mins apart, I had a bad dose of the runs, another had a toothache another problem with kids, they are bound to have known something was up but hey ho stuff them, I'll continue making up rubbish if I have an interview somewhere.
    If one of these blokes gets the job you think they wont tell the boss you were there too you know on the day you said you were ill?
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  • melysion
    melysion Posts: 801 Forumite
    AP007 wrote: »
    If one of these blokes gets the job you think they wont tell the boss you were there too you know on the day you said you were ill?

    Well that would mean someone being vindictive just for the heck of it. Why would anyone do that?

    Of course, if there was any fairness in the world, the unemployed should have priority over the employed when it comes to jobs, just because the employed person is well - employed already - but we all know that's not the case. Being unemployed doesn't mean you are less likely to be a good employee than someone already in employment. All things being equal, the only difference between the two is blind prejudice - which is pretty depressing if you think about it.
  • falko89
    falko89 Posts: 1,687 Forumite
    AP007 wrote: »
    If one of these blokes gets the job you think they wont tell the boss you were there too you know on the day you said you were ill?

    Na why would they? None of us got the job anyway, One positive about working for a !!!!! company is the employees all become close and stick together, none would grass another up.
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