Your online activity may be costing you a job.

Flyonthewall

Denning. wrote: »

Or befriending them using a fake profile. Or befriending a friend of theirs.

Yeah...

Flyonthewall wrote: »

So he adds them as a friend? Still not how things should be done in business.

Does he use a fake profile or his own? If you've applied for a job and some guy adds you who works for that company (assuming that's on his profile) I'd be thinking that's a little bit odd/dodgy.

I only assumed hacking as the original post about it said "he got access to "private" FB accounts". If they'd said he was able to view accounts I would have possibly assumed friends but the word access suggested hacking.

wapow

A lot of odd questions in this thread
"who would add someone they don't know"
"not the way a business should behave"


Hmm lets open our eyes first to the young generation of today.
Lets open our eyes to how available sex has become.


Now if im a young lad and a fit babe tries to add me on facebook and has a few friends and profile seems decent then I will add her just so I can get access to her photos and see what shes about.


I wont go into details about how id set up my account, where id get friends added or how id get photos as some of you may have ideas!


If I was a business and I was trusting my hard earned cash to someone and trusting the growth of my business to someone, I would use ALL tools available to find out about this individual. CRB checks, facebook checks, twitter checks the full works.


Its my money and my business which will be affected if this individual turns out to be a !!!!!!. They wouldn't care less. I have more to lose.


Most of this is logic people. Just put yourselves in the shoes of a big company and take yourself out of the equation for a moment and if you cant think like that then unfortunately you are not made for ceo roles within businesses.

Flyonthewall

wapow wrote: »

"not the way a business should behave"

You think it's professional for businesses to track down people and stalk them/spy on them through social media to see what they do outside of work and in their own private time?

If I was a business and I was trusting my hard earned cash to someone and trusting the growth of my business to someone, I would use ALL tools available to find out about this individual. CRB checks, facebook checks, twitter checks the full works.

That's why we have CRB checks and these wonderful things called interviews, plus references and qualifications. It shows a person the employer whether someone is suitable for the job. It has worked well for many years, why do we suddenly need to start checking online, especially accessing private accounts?

Where do you draw the line? I mean is an employer within their rights to sit outside your bedroom window and spy on you? Afterall, I could say on facebook that I'm watching TV and miss out the fact I'm having a beer at the same time and clearly if that post on facebook is important to me getting a job then surely you need to know you have the full story/picture.

Plus what about if you can't find any social media accounts for that person? Does that mean they're up to something bad or have something to hide? Should you stalk them instead because the information isn't on your computer? It's a "tool" that's available to you after all, you have their address on their CV, and obviously it wouldn't be fair to know all about the other applicants and not one person who isn't online because how can you fairly compare them.

wapow

Your entire argument can be cancelled by one thing - Your terms and conditions.

When you sign up to these online social sites, ALL of them including stuff like whatsapp etc which is used in mobile have specifically mentioned that anything you add or post is for the use of the site and nothing is private.

So in essence by having a facebook profile or whatever you are saying you do not really care about a private life because youre willing to sign it away to a third party who can sell your accounts if they so wished.

It is the information age. Information is vital to success. I will find out what I can about something or someone before taking the plunge.

It is my money we're playing with here and youre in need of a job not me therefore make sure your life and yourself is in order before bringing yourself down to my house!

(I dont mean you per se in that, FOTW)

Flyonthewall

wapow wrote: »

Your entire argument can be cancelled by one thing - Your terms and conditions.

When you sign up to these online social sites, ALL of them including stuff like whatsapp etc which is used in mobile have specifically mentioned that anything you add or post is for the use of the site and nothing is private.

So in essence by having a facebook profile or whatever you are saying you do not really care about a private life because youre willing to sign it away to a third party who can sell your accounts if they so wished.

It is the information age. Information is vital to success. I will find out what I can about something or someone before taking the plunge.

It is my money we're playing with here and youre in need of a job not me therefore make sure your life and yourself is in order before bringing yourself down to my house!

(I dont mean you per se in that, FOTW)

The data protection act says otherwise. They cannot just sell your information/account or pass it out to anyone and everyone. The point in making your account private is to stop just anyone seeing it - they have that feature for a reason. It's up to each person whether or not they do that.

It doesn't cancel out my point anyway. Online, you say nothing is private and you agree to them terms. Well, windows, perfectly clear to see through and you agree to have them. Does that make it alright for everyone to look through them?

Nor does it answer about not being online (or no-one being able to find you online).

wapow

They skirt around the Data Protection Act by their use of terminology in the T&C's. I thought this would be obvious and not require a mention.

I've been an avid follower of the Facebook Privacy Concerns and you should read up on it as you'll find they do what any big company would do, drag their heels for aslong as they can.

Have a read on the latest and you'll find that it still more or less the same.

Your data is not truly deleted and they still keep records after you've de-activated accounts etc etc.

Also, think about Prism and all that hoohaa in the news about all your data being gathered and sent to USA etc. They kicked up a fuss but that was it.

Do you know what data about you was being gathered against the law and without your consent? How do you find out? Who do you go to?

It is perfectly legal for me to be standing on a public spot and looking through anyone's window.


Other people may not be able to see your account but facebook have ultimate control of what they see and what they wish to share.

You have an expectation of privacy only in private.

Flyonthewall

wapow wrote: »

They skirt around the Data Protection Act by their use of terminology in the T&C's. I thought this would be obvious and not require a mention.

I've been an avid follower of the Facebook Privacy Concerns and you should read up on it as you'll find they do what any big company would do, drag their heels for aslong as they can.

Have a read on the latest and you'll find that it still more or less the same.

Your data is not truly deleted and they still keep records after you've de-activated accounts etc etc.

Also, think about Prism and all that hoohaa in the news about all your data being gathered and sent to USA etc. They kicked up a fuss but that was it.

Do you know what data about you was being gathered against the law and without your consent? How do you find out? Who do you go to?

If they never truly delete data I want a comment back I wrote recently that weirdly decided to delete itself with no warning -_-

Anyway, the Data Protection Act still means something. Besides just because they're collecting data, sending it places or whatever else doesn't mean that an employer has the right to see your profile.

My profile is set to private, doesn't come up in search engines and it's not that easy to find me by name on Facebook (even if they did they could not be 100% sure it's me).

Main way to find me would be to search by email address, but the one the employers have isn't the one I use on Facebook. You can tell me it's not really private and all that rubbish, but the fact is that it is hard to find me and I know stuff is hidden. Some people can see it all (friends/family), others may be collecting data etc. But for a potential employer to find me they'd have to be very unprofessional and quite possibly go to illegal means.

After all, it's highly unlikely that every job I apply for the employer happens to know who one of my friends is (to add them and try and find me from there) or what other email address I use or be a company Facebook sends data too etc. In fact, I doubt any employer has known any of them.

I went for a job with a web company and they couldn't find me at all. If anyone is going to be able to find someone you'd think it would be those who specialise in the Internet. To add, they made a point of adding social media icons to their sites and were quite big on all the social media stuff.

Other people/companies getting online data about you or even Facebook sharing it is not the same as an employer looking you up and having access to your profile.

It is perfectly legal for me to be standing on a public spot and looking through anyone's window.

Other people may not be able to see your account but facebook have ultimate control of what they see and what they wish to share.

You have an expectation of privacy only in private.

Ok, so if it's legal and an available tool you think it's ok for employers to look through the window of a potential employees house?

tomtontom

alsoanewuser wrote: »

Although if someone wants to come on a forum and make nasty personal remarks to other people on it, it's much easier to do. I'd clean up my own posting history before I started advising other people how to conduct themselves online.

It might help if you quote who you are replying to?!

RuthnJasper

For example...:-

melysion

RuthnJasper wrote: »

For example...:-

Oopsies!!!!