Speeding Fine NIP

fivetide

If you don't get any joy ask on pepipoo (if you haven't already) as you might get a generally more helpful focused response.

That said, well done to those who have posted advice.

DUTR

Brihutchie1878 wrote: »

To the arrogance of Mr. DUTR. I have just rung the Central processing unit and it was confirmed that the car was of the stated Registration plate. This is a car I have never owned or driven, I have also never driven a vehicle of this particular type before. (Before people ask, it's easy to find the make and model of a car with it's reg. plate on the internet) So I am totally clear, minus filling in the s175 form. It is the police's problem to find the A hole who has tried to give false details in, and even got them wrong.

I'll take your apologise DUTR if your man enough to give them, minus the smarmy comments. To everyone else who put your tuppence worth in, thanks.

Perhaps you missed the text in post #7 which included "Either you were in a motorised vehicle travelling along the said road at the time or you were not,"

I'm not sure what you are expecting an apology about? To you the reply is smary or arrogant or whatever way you take it, if you are seeking empathy and parenting, then post on the relationships board, many of the boards are poster has a problem and is seeking a logical solution, the forum rules do not state that replies have to be wrapped in cotton wool, if that is what you are expecting then you may be well dissapointed. Glad a simple phone call resolved the issue you for you, hope you have requested the resolve in written format?

Brihutchie1878

No, I don't expect cotton wool replies. But it was obvious by your tones and smarmy comments that I was guilty and trying to pull a fast one. Sorry to disappoint! Arrogant people like yourself should stay away from forums, and look after your own perfect little lives. To let the more understanding folk put across their thoughts, critics and helpful points in a less condescending manor.

da_rule

Does your neighbour (the one who lives at the number the letter should have been delivered to) own a car as described on the NiP or have the name mentioned on the NiP.

Just thinking that, and it's a long shot, neighbouring driving a borrowed car, breaks speed limit, registered keeper is served with a NiP and s.175 request and names your neighbour, police re-issue NiP to your neighbour (which may account for the delay in time) and Royal Mail mess up the delivery and deliver it to you because you have a similar looking name? Or if the vehicle is your neighbours then he's just been caught speeding and the postie has messed up.

DUTR

Brihutchie1878 wrote: »

No, I don't expect cotton wool replies. But it was obvious by your tones and smarmy comments that I was guilty and trying to pull a fast one. Sorry to disappoint! Arrogant people like yourself should stay away from forums, and look after your own perfect little lives. To let the more understanding folk put across their thoughts, critics and helpful points in a less condescending manor.

If you look at your replies as if you were not you then you would realise your tone is no different, so why is it 'ok' for you and not anybody else? I notice you have gone and edited your post, had you posted with a little less ambiguity in the 1st place then you may have a point , on this occasion though, the way you posted originally, did appear as if you may have done the deed and was looking for a loophole to escape conviction on a technicality.
As said the matter of the letter is now resolved so why are you dwelling on it? People were not put on the earth to please you, if you are pleased with them then that is a bonus, but that is life , get over yourself.

Mark_Mark

anotherbaldrick wrote: »

Certainly the DVLA are not immune to making faux pas . Only last week I received a letter from the DVLA with the name of one who lives 4 doors away from me (we only have house names, no numbers) with my address firmly on it. Now in the age of computerised databases just how the blue blazes did they manage to do that ? I e-mailed the DVLA about it and their explanation was as befuddled as the original event.

I don't think this is anything to do with the dvla.

HO87

The OP appears to be being very circumspect in the information they are providing. One can understand a reluctance to let slip information that might allow the BiB to identify their case but the drip-feed suggests that there is rather more to the story than meets the eye.

Unless and until the OP is a little more forthcoming it is very difficult to give appropriate advice. It is, for example, somewhat puzzling that the OP focuses on the registration number of the vehicle rather than the description of it and makes reference to "it was sent to the wrong address". Surely, if this was a vehicle with which he is entirely unconnected or unfamiliar with then he would be asking the question "How did this end up with me?"

If the OP is being uber cautious then I sincerely apologise but for the moment there is something of a whiff of 3-day old mackerel about this story.

For the moment the only advice that one can sensibly proffer is: This relates to an allegation of 37 in a 30. If the OP hasn't attend one in the last 3 years and they were to identify themselves as the driver - if indeed they were (and only if they were) - then they are likely to be offered a speed awareness course. They'll pay a fee roughly equivalent to the fixed penalty ticket and spend four hours in a mildly entertaining classroom with free tea and biccies - and no points either. This assumes that there isn't more at play here such as disqualification or no insurance.

If they continue to plough the furrow they are and attempt to play - as the police might well view it - fast and loose then there is likely to be a world of pain if they continue.

As a final hint the OP needs to understand that the fact that they have been served with a NIP is no indication that they are necessarily the registered keeper of the vehicle in question and may well have been named as the driver by the recipient of an original NIP (thus accounting for the 14-day overshoot). This would also account for the slightly wrong address and spelling of their name.

Could the OP have been a passenger in the vehicle at the time of the alleged offence the driver (keeper?) of which is trying to cloud the issue by suggesting that they cannot recall who was driving and have supplied a list of names?

The OP also needs to understand that the s.172 requirement must be dealt with whether or not the NIP relates to anything they may or may not have done. This sounds somewhat counter intuitive but failure to deal with that will leave them liable to a mandatory 6 points and a reasonably hefty fine (£3-350 is pretty average at the moment) plus costs. The real kicker is that the MS90 endorsement code is very unpopular with insurers who view it - rightly or wrongly - as an indicator of dishonest behaviour. Premiums will be heavily loaded, at best, and policies have also been known to be rescinded or further cover refused at the end of the current term.

AdrianC

HO87 wrote: »

For the moment the only advice that one can sensibly proffer is: This relates to an allegation of 37 in a 30. If the OP hasn't attend one in the last 3 years and they were to identify themselves as the driver - if indeed they were (and only if they were) - then they are likely to be offered a speed awareness course. They'll pay a fee roughly equivalent to the fixed penalty ticket and spend four hours in a mildly entertaining classroom with free tea and biccies - and no points either.

Point of order, Sir. There weren't any biccies on the course I went on. And the tea was from a machine.

HO87

Being the upstanding soul that I am I have never attended one and can't speak from experience. :A

However, the OH has. Twice. Who am I question She who must be obeyed?

And for the cynical amongst you my surname is not Huhne and the OH's is not Pryce.

Johno100

HO87 wrote: »

Unless and until the OP is a little more forthcoming it is very difficult to give appropriate advice. It is, for example, somewhat puzzling that the OP focuses on the registration number of the vehicle rather than the description of it and makes reference to "it was sent to the wrong address". Surely, if this was a vehicle with which he is entirely unconnected or unfamiliar with then he would be asking the question "How did this end up with me?"

I'm not sure that a NIP actually gives a description of the vehicle i.e. make and model, I thought it only gave the registration number.