Different attitudes towards reasonable room temperature at home

DRP

Idiophreak wrote: »

Yes. I'm in a house...so I wear indoor clothes...teeshirts, shirts...maybe loungepants and a vest...When I go outside, I put outdoor clothes on...jumpers, jackets...even shoes! It's a radical system, but it seems to work OK.

ha ha you wouldn't get far with that attitude in my house, young man!

Man up and put on a jumper!!

Seriously though, I think a lot of people are going to have to change their ways in the coming years and decades - this type of thinking is unsustainable... my parents always used to tell me that in their day they had ice inside the windows in the winter...

DRP

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Just googled for those guidelines. Have found the World Health Organisation says "18C is suitable for healthy people who are appropriately dressed. Sick/disabled/very old or very young should have 20C".

link to similar NHS and govt guidelines:

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/winterhealth/Pages/KeepWarmKeepWell.aspx
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/learning/get-ready-for-winter/health-and-welbeing

18-21 for living rooms
16 in bedrooms

tbh i think that is too high and those articles are clearly targeted and preventing illness in vulnerable individuals.

Niv

donfanatico wrote: »

if you are feeling too hot, maybe you could strip down to your undies to cool down...:eek:


I'l get my coat................[/QUOTE]

why? Are you cold?

BitterAndTwisted

I can't believe how much controversy has been stirred up abut a lodger behaving like an @rse i someone else's home.

Wearing a jumper indoors in the winter is a perfectly reasonable thing to expect someone to do.

The bill-payer decides what the temperature should be and if this lodger doesn't like it, they can either pay the OP more or sling their ruddy hook.

Niv

I am surprised people are responding to Idiophreak who is clearly trolling.

Idiophreak

DRP wrote: »

ha ha you wouldn't get far with that attitude in my house, young man!

Man up and put on a jumper!!

Seriously though, I think a lot of people are going to have to change their ways in the coming years and decades - this type of thinking is unsustainable... my parents always used to tell me that in their day they had ice inside the windows in the winter...

....but your parents probably didn't have double glazing...or 12" of insulation in the attic, or cavity wall insulation....or doors that actually seal in the frame, or central heating...

Far from being unsustainable, insulating houses effectively is the way forward...And once a house is well insulated, it requires precious little heating. Our flat, for instance, is warmed top to bottom if we have the oven on to cook tea. We had our windows open at night in November and have already started this again with the spring weather coming through. There are only about 20 or 30 days per year when the heating really gets fired up, the rest of the time it just ticks over. It was actually broken for our first winter (would cut off when it was about 20% heated) and we weren't cold. Indeed, the real cost of running our flat comes in the summer when we require fans on all night to stand a chance of sleeping.

I don't honestly believe the future sees us huddled in duvets round a gas lamp desperately seeking warmth...Technology enables us to move forward.

Idiophreak

Niv wrote: »

I am surprised people are responding to Idiophreak who is clearly trolling.

Ouch, that hurt. :rotfl:

I'm playing devil's advocate, perhaps...but that's not the same thing.

If you rented a hotel room and it was so cold you needed to wear a jumper (and there was no mechanism for adjusting this, so you could be comfortable), you wouldn't pay full price...I'm just unsure why everyone thinks renting a room longer term should be any different. If you sell it as "bills included", that means all bills included...if the OP can't afford to honour that agreement, they shouldn't have made it in the first place.

katejo

lee111s wrote: »

I have a lodger and have the opposite problem! I have the house at a nice temp, around 20-21, my lodger constantly has his window open! Isn't a problem when he has his door shut but when he leaves it open it soon cools the whole house down (his room is at the top of the staircase so cold air rushes downstairs). He unerstands now though to close it when he's not home and to also have the door shut when he does have it open

OP - it's your house so your rules. As long as it's not uncomfortably cold I'd advise him to wear a jumper or look elsewhere. You run YOUR house how you want.

You would also need him to close the window for insurance/security reasons in case of a break in/insurance claim.

katejo

Idiophreak wrote: »

Ouch, that hurt. :rotfl:

I'm playing devil's advocate, perhaps...but that's not the same thing.

If you rented a hotel room and it was so cold you needed to wear a jumper (and there was no mechanism for adjusting this, so you could be comfortable), you wouldn't pay full price...I'm just unsure why everyone thinks renting a room longer term should be any different. If you sell it as "bills included", that means all bills included...if the OP can't afford to honour that agreement, they shouldn't have made it in the first place.

I would be perfectly happy to wear a jumper in a hotel room if needed. I would rather have it that way than be too hot (with no way to cool the room down)

Mallotum_X

Idiophreak wrote: »

Why? They're indoors. There are windows and doors a walls and insulation all shielding them from the elements and there's heating to actually make it warmer than the world outside! All of these things should unite to make it...."comfortable".

A lodger *shouldn't be expected* to wear a jumper indoors.

What are you on about, why shouldn't they? The temperatures are set are reasonable levels. Lodger feels its cold, put a jumper on. Its a normal item of clothing people wear in winter. Its hardly the same as them putting a coat and gloves on.

20 degrees is a perfectly pleasant temperature.