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  • wapow
    wapow Posts: 939 Forumite
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    BillJones wrote: »
    If you are not drunk, please call an ambulance, as you are possibly having a stroke.


    Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn!!!!!!!! :D
  • olias
    olias Posts: 3,588 Forumite
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    I thought that said Bun, which would have been a coincidence, as I was eating one as I read it..........:D

    Olias
  • wapow
    wapow Posts: 939 Forumite
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    olias wrote: »
    I thought that said Bun, which would have been a coincidence, as I was eating one as I read it..........:D

    Olias
    Do I have special powers?

    Sweeeeeeeeets!

    Not eating sweets now are ya? :D I was gonna say cake but a bun is a cake...is it not? Hmm...
  • morganedge
    morganedge Posts: 1,320 Forumite
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    That's what interests me. It's the idea of 'wasting time/wasting life' that always crops up.
    Nobody wants to think they're wasting their time, or that they wasted their lives!

    People who work 6 days per week in a factory doing 12 hour shifts on minimum wage would never be accused of wasting their lives on this forum!

    But if someone is unemployed (or doesn't need to work) and spends 7 days per week socialising, playing computer games etc, then they ARE wasting their lives.

    I just don't see the logic.

    I admit that this issue stikes a nerve with me, because i'm someone who is always thinking about wasting time/ how NOT to waste your life etc.
    I feel like i'm wasting my life now that I'm out of work and don't do anything, but I felt exactly the same (sometimes even worse!) when I WAS working up until fairly recently, in a warehouse Mon-Sat. Felt like a slave wasting their life.

    I think that as long as you spend lots of time doing what you enjoy (no matter how boring/pointless/unproductive it may seem to some) then you can't really be accused of wasting your life/time.
  • makeyourdaddyproud
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    morganedge wrote: »

    I think that as long as you spend lots of time doing what you enjoy (no matter how boring/pointless/unproductive it may seem to some) then you can't really be accused of wasting your life/time.

    My point exactly.

    There are some of those that do have a consummate flair in many things artistic and are best left to their endeavours in their chosen art form if they can afford it.

    There are those that will seemingly begrudge those in that enviable profile - just because they HAVE to work!
  • makeyourdaddyproud
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    BillJones wrote: »
    No, but those who write semi-literate (enumerated means counted, not rich, or well paid) screeds against it do always seem to enjoy the fruits of it.

    Also, compliance, and glub? Are you drunk, or just rambling?

    And it's conferred on, not to.

    And no luxuries are conferred on historical figures, as they are dead.

    If you are not drunk, please call an ambulance, as you are possibly having a stroke.

    Just saw this.

    Artistic compliance is EXACTLY what I meant.

    I'm using an iPhone keypad so I meant "glib".

    Enumerated is correct also; meaning MANY of those, which can include the wealthy.

    Conferred on/to/upon are all valid phrases, and it makes no difference if the target is deceased or otherwise.

    There are different writing styles: no single size fits all.

    ... And then there is a metaphorical writing style which seems to be lost on know-it-all BillJones.
  • makeyourdaddyproud
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    ... Oh, and one other point worthy of note - I am mad and eccentric, but I don't imbibe the evil sauce!
  • Twiggy_34
    Twiggy_34 Posts: 685 Forumite
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    BillJones wrote: »
    It may be for you, but I think that for most people it'd be far too little to be able to enjoy life. It'd mean not going to the restaurant with friends, not having a nice car, not living in a nice area, and so on.

    I'm starting to work out how much money I'll want in retirement, and don't think I'm going to want to drop much below £50k per year, and that's assuming that I've no mortgage by then.

    I'm sure you didn't mean it to be but that's sounds more than a bit judgemental! 18 months ago I was working full time in a fairly specialist job earning £16.5k, Just before that I had purchased my first property with my partner (he earns a little more than me but we pay our own way for everything we want to do and split household stuff 50/50 so that is irrelevant) after renting for a few years. We regularly go out for nice meals or days out, I have a nice 10 plate car, fully paid for, because I wanted something newer and plan to upgrade to something newer/bigger probably next year. My other half has a nice car but it's a 2001 reg, because he didn't want to spend a lot of money "just on a car". We're in a nice town, close to the centre, on a nice street. I pay into my works pension scheme every month and have done so for the last 14 years and our mortgage will be paid off in less than the 20 years we took it out for. We do also have plans to "upgrade" to a bigger/nicer property at some point, but don't let that make you think our existing place isn't nice! It's fair to point out that I changed employers 18 months ago though and my income increased to £18.5k but that's still significantly lower that your aspired £50k a year in retirement. I'm tempted to assume that you might live somewhere like London where wages are higher but so are living costs, but I have a suspicious feeling that isn't the case.

    With regard to the OP - I've always said that if I'd were fortunate enough to find myself in that kind of situation I would have a couple of years out travelling the world but would want to set up my own business afterwards. I couldn't in good conscience take work from others who might need the income more than me, but would thrive on the idea of either being self-sufficient or, even better, creating work opportunities for others if the business venture proved viable. I understand people's reservations about employing something who's been dossing around for years, but I also think it would be wrong to judge someone for doing something most of us can only ever dream of!
    £12k in 2019 #084 £3000/£3000
    £2 Savers Club 2019 #18 TOTAL:£394 (2013-2018 = £1542)
  • makeyourdaddyproud
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    Twiggy, you are the poster child for the Coalition. There's nothing you need to worry about. So long as you don't get sucked in by consumerist ideologies (buying new cars, gadgets etc), you will certainly become more prosperous.

    It's those on the kind of incomes that seem to warrant the ownership of every gadget under the sun - where £50K probably wouldn't be enough.
  • Twiggy_34
    Twiggy_34 Posts: 685 Forumite
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    There's nothing you need to worry about. So long as you don't get sucked in by consumerist ideologies (buying new cars, gadgets etc), you will certainly become more prosperous.

    I can only hope so! I work to live, not live to work, that's my mantra. My aim is to live a comfortable happy life and to retire as early as possible... I'm doing pretty well nowadays but have had up's and down's like anyone and it took me a long time to learn to use my money more wisely. Ultimately I believe I've acquired a fairly healthy balance regarding money management from having a dad who didn't like to spend money and a mum who usually spends too much. I have fun with my money and enjoy a few luxuries, nice holidays and the likes but am also mindful of the future and rainy days!
    £12k in 2019 #084 £3000/£3000
    £2 Savers Club 2019 #18 TOTAL:£394 (2013-2018 = £1542)
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