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ovivo, apple iphone and invalid sim

john1002
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Hi all,

Its not another ovivo rant but I wonder if anyone else like me had a iphone 5 and used ovivo, my iphone was unlocked when I bought it brand new, as many others I decided to find a new supplier, in my case to go back to tesco mobile.

The problem I have encountered is that when i went to put my new tesco mobile sim in, it would not pass the iphone activation and said invalid sim.

Rang tesco to be told it is not them, onto apple and after lots of time and going through the script it would seem that whilst you buy a sim free unlocked iphone as soon as you put a sim in then it locks to that network so for me(ovivo) Vodafone. Of course i cant get ovivo to unlock the iphone so now my fingers are crossed relying on apple to unlock and allow the iphone onto o2, i.e tesco.

Apparently for me to avoid this issue again i need to buy from apple and not in my case QVC or any other retailer.

This is the first time I've come across this issue, you have to prove to apple that you got a unlocked phone and there is still no guarantee that this will happen but they are hopefull.

Just wonder if anyone else has had this problem or they have ensured they have gone with vodaphone. Annoying and frustrating as I am without a phone at present.

john
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  • dealer_wins
    dealer_wins Posts: 7,334 Forumite
    Just one of 1000 reasons why Apple phones suck. Yes the look great but they make everything impossibly difficult and anal.

    My GF has an Iphone and it took my about an hour to change the divert delay on it today, where as "normal" phones takes 1 minute!! Just ANAL!!!
  • d123
    d123 Posts: 8,691 Forumite
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    john1002 wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Its not another ovivo rant but I wonder if anyone else like me had a iphone 5 and used ovivo, my iphone was unlocked when I bought it brand new, as many others I decided to find a new supplier, in my case to go back to tesco mobile.

    The problem I have encountered is that when i went to put my new tesco mobile sim in, it would not pass the iphone activation and said invalid sim.

    Rang tesco to be told it is not them, onto apple and after lots of time and going through the script it would seem that whilst you buy a sim free unlocked iphone as soon as you put a sim in then it locks to that network so for me(ovivo) Vodafone. Of course i cant get ovivo to unlock the iphone so now my fingers are crossed relying on apple to unlock and allow the iphone onto o2, i.e tesco.

    Apparently for me to avoid this issue again i need to buy from apple and not in my case QVC or any other retailer.

    This is the first time I've come across this issue, you have to prove to apple that you got a unlocked phone and there is still no guarantee that this will happen but they are hopefull.

    Just wonder if anyone else has had this problem or they have ensured they have gone with vodaphone. Annoying and frustrating as I am without a phone at present.

    john

    I suspect QVC sourced their stock from CarPhoneWarehouse, they (CPW) have a morally poor system of defining sim free to just mean no sim and the first sim inserted causes the phone to lock to that network.

    Your only way out will be to register a Vodafone PAYG sim and use it in the phone for a while, thereafter request the unlock from Vodafone.

    Unfortunately, the ONLY way to buy a genuinely unlocked sim free iPhone is directly from Apple.
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  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,235 Forumite
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    Which is.... ANAL
  • grumbler
    grumbler Posts: 58,629 Forumite
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    Complain to QVC and report them to TS. They seem to keep misleadingly describing their iPhones as 'sim-free':
    http://www.qvcuk.com/Apple-iPhone-5C-16GB-SIM-Free-Smartphone-w--Content-%26-Accessories.product.504998.html?sc=504998-SRCH&cm_sp=VIEWPOSITION-_-1-_-504998

    CPW make it clear that their 'sim-free' iPhones "will lock to the network of the first SIM use": http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/APPLE_IPHONE_5C_16GB/PPAY?colourCode=YELLOW&gift=undefined&giftType=undefined
  • System
    System Posts: 178,186 Community Admin
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    Is it within 120 days of your purchase of the phone?
  • keith1950
    keith1950 Posts: 2,597 Forumite
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    This is the first time I've come across this issue, you have to prove to apple that you got a unlocked phone and there is still no guarantee that this will happen but they are hopefull.

    Just wonder if anyone else has had this problem or they have ensured they have gone with vodaphone. Annoying and frustrating as I am without a phone at present.

    john
    Hi, I have used www.fonefunshop.co.uk successfully several times and found them fast and efficient.

    They can provide a permanent unlock from the Vodafone network however this can cost up to £60.
  • Haffiana
    Haffiana Posts: 733 Forumite
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    I bought a sim free phone from Apple and have so far used three different network sims in it - O2, Three and a middle East company (Vodaphone Egypt) when I was visiting Egypt a couple of months ago. I am off to the States next month and will pick up a local sim in the airport when I arrive.

    Your issue is with QVC.
  • john1002
    john1002 Posts: 984 Forumite
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    An update, just being onto QVC, apparently will take 3 days for them to see how it was sold on air!!!

    Then who knows what will happen, all I want is a phone that works.

    At least I now know what I should be asking next time, still got my fingers crossed that apple will be able to sort.

    haffianna that is the way yours works you got it direct from apple, it would seem the only true way of getting "full sim free"

    Ill keep everyone posted

    John
  • Number29
    Number29 Posts: 138 Forumite
    Your issues is with QVC. Not surprised someone jumped on the issue to try and make Apple sound like the bad guys (it's currently fashionable to do so, despite being wrong).
  • Dave80s
    Dave80s Posts: 50 Forumite
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    John, did you connect your phone to iTunes via a computer? This solved it for me.

    Dave.
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