Independence?

scotsbob · 27 November 2014 at 1:23PM

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

Sensationalism? Oh too sexy for the ft. Could you be more Mail-like than reporting a 50 million barrel find as 500 million? That's a fairly big spout

I gave a link to 50 million but then said 500 million, it was a typo couldn't you have worked that out?

If was really trying to mislead I wouldn't have provided the link.

qwert_yuiop · 27 November 2014 at 7:32PM

I did. Isn't it amazing to think that 50 million barrels is about what the world consumes every 5 days?

scotsbob · 29 November 2014 at 1:50AM

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

I did. Isn't it amazing to think that 50 million barrels is about what the world consumes every 5 days?

Certainly is amazing. However Scotland doesn't supply the whole world with oil.

What is amazing is that with tax revenue at £20.67 a barrel that equals 50,000,000 x £20.67 so that would be an extra £1,033,500,000 income that Westminster will have.

Now be sure to use your observational skills and make sure there are no typos in my figures.

qwert_yuiop · 29 November 2014 at 12:13PM

If London or anyone else is going to take £20.67 on every barrel extracted, that oil will be staying exactly where it is.

jj_5 · 30 November 2014 at 12:36AM

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

So how many of you still want independence now oil's lost 30% of its value in the last couple of months?

(I'm in NI)

Most recent polls have shown 52% in favour of independence. The SNP have quadrupled their membership and are sitting at 40-52% in the polls for 2015.

Like others have said it wasn't about the oil, it was about having control over our own economy among other things. Proposed date of independence was 2016 by the way, so why a reduction in oil prices NOW would be a cause for concern is betond me

qwert_yuiop · 30 November 2014 at 10:56AM

I don't think the drop on oil prices would be a cause for concern. I think it would be a cause for panic. Well, you can always leave it there and maybe it'll get more valuable some time. Maybe even by 2016.

I'm interested in this "managing the economy" bit. Can anyone manage an economy? Stuff happens and there's not a lot anyone can do.

Surely only 34% voted for independence. You can be fairly sure anyone who didn't bit then is never going to vote in anything.

jj_5 · 30 November 2014 at 9:01PM

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

I don't think the drop on oil prices would be a cause for concern. I think it would be a cause for panic. Well, you can always leave it there and maybe it'll get more valuable some time. Maybe even by 2016.

I'm interested in this "managing the economy" bit. Can anyone manage an economy? Stuff happens and there's not a lot anyone can do.

Surely only 34% voted for independence. You can be fairly sure anyone who didn't bit then is never going to vote in anything.

With respect, you appear to have limited knowledge on this topic. 45% voted yes to independence, not 34%.

As you are someone who lives in Northern Ireland, I must ask aswell, what has it got to do with you?

bigheadxx · 30 November 2014 at 11:55PM

It depends on how likely it is that the UK government was not aware or even part of the looming fall in oil prices. They are already well aware of the spectre of deflation, which has only partially and temporarily been resolved.

Labour had a massive membership boost after Tony Blair, it's no different now for Alex Salmond and the SNP. Blair didn't deliver and ultimately nor will Alex Salmond.

All the pieces are in place for independence to be well and truly off the agenda "for a generation" in a matter of years as the oil argument doesn't stack up with Scottish voters. Couple that with Holyrood taxing and spending most of it's own budget and an Alex Salmond intergrated into the Westminster establishment, there will be no appetite for independence.

From austerity to immigration and Scottish independence to the EU, the establishment has a plan and is well ahead of us as to what happens next.

qwert_yuiop · 1 December 2014 at 2:33PM

jj_5 wrote: »

With respect, you appear to have limited knowledge on this topic. 45% voted yes to independence, not 34%.

As you are someone who lives in Northern Ireland, I must ask aswell, what has it got to do with you?

Was it not 34% of electorate? Although of course many of those who didn't vote probably didn't care either way.

Since I'm in NI, nothing directly, except I don't want to have to see the near neighbour as a foreign state. We've enough of that nonsense here. I have to say there were a lot of very odd things said running up to that vote.