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  • elantan
    elantan Posts: 21,022 Forumite
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    Ok the latest

    Belt sander bought on Saturday, has managed to get the marks out, however, husband has done less than 2msquared
    And it's burnt out already, no longer working and were stuck again

    Husband is thinking of hiring the drum sander out again this weekend and seeing how he goes with that

    The irritating thing is ... Where he has manage to sand it, it looks lovely

    Grrrr

    Any suggestions ?
  • JellyBox
    JellyBox Posts: 241 Forumite
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    If belt sander has burnt out that quickly, take it back as it isn't fit for purpose. We sanded out wood floors and 2/3 way through getting off the worst of the lacquer, our belt sander gave up, so we got it exchanged and the replacement is still holding up. Bought loads of sanding belts from the net though, as couldn't afford the shop ones, do make sure you change them often enough. I feel your pain with sanding, seems like it'll be so easy before you start!
  • elantan
    elantan Posts: 21,022 Forumite
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    phew its been a manic few days, took the belt sander back and got it replaced, hired out the drum sander again tried the 80 on the floor but the marks were still there, had to go to a 40 in order to get them off ( they really seemed burned in almost... weird)

    we then sanded it at the 80 and then a 120 giving it a gentle smooth finish, we are now down to the nails in the floor so will probably not get any more sanding out of it and will need to replace it sooner rather than later, but it is looking better.

    have put three coats of the polyurathane on the floor and the third coat is drying as i write .. will pop a wee picture up just shortly


    thanks again for all your help, its kept me going when i have been ready to just jack it in :)
  • elantan
    elantan Posts: 21,022 Forumite
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    This is it with the coat still wet it doesn't have a gloss finish as that would show up too many mistakes... Will show you it dry tomorrow :)
  • Joel12
    Joel12 Posts: 4 Newbie
    After following this thread for a while now I am really anxious to see what it looks like dry. If we consider what you came from (and how many hours you sank into this) and then look at the way it is now, it certainly seems like it was worth all your efforts. It looks brilliant wet!
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    elantan wrote: »
    phew its been a manic few days, took the belt sander back and got it replaced, hired out the drum sander again tried the 80 on the floor but the marks were still there, had to go to a 40 in order to get them off ( they really seemed burned in almost... weird)

    we then sanded it at the 80 and then a 120 giving it a gentle smooth finish, we are now down to the nails in the floor so will probably not get any more sanding out of it and will need to replace it sooner rather than later, but it is looking better.

    have put three coats of the polyurathane on the floor and the third coat is drying as i write .. will pop a wee picture up just shortly


    thanks again for all your help, its kept me going when i have been ready to just jack it in :)

    I'm not surprised the marks seem ground/burnt in at 40grit, that is really aggressive stuff, and you did burn out the sander.

    A belt sander is the only way to go for this type of floor refurb, orbital is a negative.

    I think you have made a mega mistake.
    Forget what I've just said about prep, it's not about that, it's about the finish you are applying.

    I honestly thing that poly simply i9sn't a hard or durable enough finish for you floor.
    You are using DIY kit when you should be looking at/have used pro 2 pack.

    Please don't get offended by what I've printed, it is simply an experience weighted opinion.
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • elantan
    elantan Posts: 21,022 Forumite
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    edited 4 April 2014 at 12:51PM
    Hey all... Took a dried photo but it is exactly the same as the wet look photo, I think it's maybe more glossy than we expected ?

    Yes we most deff have made rookie mistakes of that there is no doubt, it's weird though how on both the drum sander and the belt sander we couldn't remove the marks with a 80 grit, but had to go with the 40 to get them away, we were actually starting to wonder if maybe the treatex had burned the floor, as it seemed to be treatex marks from the roller

    We are obviously not professionals and we could easily be wrong, but we have been head scratching as to what could have caused these marks

    Will take another photo tomorrow and see how it looks, I have noticed that it seems to mark very easy compared to the lacquer, next time we are deff getting someone in to do it, I think also that we will be lucky to get another sanding out of the floor ... Husband is thinking next time it's laminate flooring but I prefer real wood ... That's a debate for later though :)
  • elantan
    elantan Posts: 21,022 Forumite
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    Yes I do think the floor looks lovely ... But do I think it was worth it ? Most deffinately NO ... My husbands anxiety has been really bad, and has had a huge knock on effect with everything, the effort has been never ending, we have been at this project now for 6 weeks all in ( new fires is what started it )

    So at the end of the day it has been a stern reminder that professionals are worth their weight in gold

    Thanks again everyone for all the help and support
  • elantan
    elantan Posts: 21,022 Forumite
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    Here we are, the floor two days dry :)
  • elantan
    elantan Posts: 21,022 Forumite
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    Meant to say cybronil, not offended at all :)

    I appreciate any and all help ... We did mess up, of that I am certain :)
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