Nice People Thread Number 11 - A Treasury of Nice People

PasturesNew

Secret Eaters on Channel 4.... always gobsmacked at the bad stuff they do scoff and "forget".

At least I know, acknowledge and understand all the calories in my foodfests!

Many fatties on this programme are gobsmacked that alcohol has calories ... and the programme shows them guzzling bottles of wine and drinks with friends/meals galore.

They did a food diary for a week. Her: 2000/day, lots of fruit. Him 2900/day, cereal for breakfast salads for lunch.

Now they spy on them/film them for a week and see what they REALLY eat.

First night and the woman eats her low calorie TV dinner ..... with 3 slices of garlic bread round the side at 200+ calories. And 17 minutes later she had 2 chocolate teacakes ... another 200 calories.

First day and the man fills up his car with fuel and picked up a Mars bar at the shop.

On Day 3, when the man usually has a salad (he says) he went into a pie shop and bought a bread roll, a hot pie, ketchup. He made a pie sandwich from them!

Day 4 he says breakfast is a piece of toast or cereal - by 8am he'd already had a 2nd breakfast. He'd stopped and bought a Bellybuster of bacon, sausage, a fried egg, black pudding and a hash brown in a big baguette - they analysed that and it was 962 calories.

She said "sometimes I have a mid morning snack of a banana" - on the way home from work she stopped off at the supermarket and bought 12 packs of crisps and a huge chocolate bar. She polished off 9 bags of crisps and 12 bars of chocolate in the week. One work colleague said she's seen her eat 3 packets of crisps in a row before.

He had a breakfast of bacon/egg muffin, over 600 calories ... then he was back into the kitchen and filled a bowl with another 7 bacon rashers. Later they went for a walk, to the supermarket, they bought ham/cheese/pickle sandwich each and some crisps. She didn't want half her sandwich so he ate it. Then they were off to the parents' house for the planned Sunday roast - he's already had 3000 calories today. Show people popped into the parents' house to find out what they ate.... and it had been video'd. Then he had tins of beer, 5 tins. Sunday dinner he'd called a "healthy lunch" as he had veggies. His Sunday lunch was 2700 calories. That one Sunday he ate 7,500 calories. He said "I do that every Sunday"

PasturesNew

Spirit wrote: »

I need guidance from you...I have posted before that my Yorkshires are a bit hit and miss.

Yorkshires are the easiest thing in the world .... and I don't even follow "the proper rules" so to speak. I make them by eye and I don't get the fat "spitting hot" as that's a bit scarey

I just chuck some flour into a bowl, the amount that "looks about right", then lob in 2-3 eggs (depending on the size of what I'm trying to make).... for "just me" I'd do 1 egg. Then, using a regular fork I just mix those together, then I start adding the milk. I use whole milk. I just keep adding milk and beating the whole mix round in the bowl (bowl's held up in the air at a 45 degree angle and I'm whipping as much air as possible into it). Now, this is all by hand and I'm weak/pathetic, so we're not talking of specialist beating skills here. Then I pop it into the fridge.

About an hour or so later (depends when I fancied making the mix and when I'm desperate to eat), I'll get to the bit when I am cooking it. Tray/dish goes into the oven with "enough" oil/margarine (any/whatever is to hand, even Stork) and once that looks like it's melted then I take the bowl out of the fridge, add in a quick splash of tap water (probably 2 tablespoons?) and give it another beat.

Dish is then removed from oven, mixture's poured in and shoved back in the oven ... shut the door. Job's done.

Now, the next bit is nailbiting as what tends to happen is it rises..... and scares the pants off me that it'll get wedged in the shelf above ....

Eventually it looks the right colour/how I like it and it's taken out and served.

I think the hardest thing to get right in a Yorkshire is having just the right sized dish available for the Yorkshire size I'm trying to make and the available oven space. e.g. I always get given the task of Yorkshires at Xmas .... and as it's not my kitchen or oven it's then a bit hit and miss what dishes are available for it and whether they'll then fit. Size/shape of dish -v- quantity of mix made is important to note. If you're not cooking something in your own kitchen, with your own implements and dishes and oven then just doing it once can cause problems as it's not until you've done it that you know whether that worked. e.g. if you'd been able to use a bigger dish, on a different shelf, for example.... but they're always still risen, tasty, edible, the second most welcomed item on the table ... I say 2nd because there's a killer Veggie Nut Roast we always have .... even meat eaters try to kill to get to it first.

vivatifosi

Spirit wrote: »

I disagree. It is not what you pay them, it is that they are working like that at all.

Reading that children were given lunch but eating it with hands covered in tobacco residue just added to my low opinion of this. What value is placed on the life of a child are they just a commodity unless they are a consumer? Where is the protection and investment that poor children are entitled to in the first world?

Last year I heard a clinician speaking following from visiting a world class hospital in the US. Whilst there the staff were raising money to contribute to the cost of cancer treatment for one of their support staff as their insurance would not cover it. The colleague said this was a treatable cancer with proven clinical pathway, normal for the NHS but beyond the 'working people' and that this absence of cover was not unusual, nor was the fund raising which was for treatment and food/social costs whilst the sick colleague was not working.

The US clinicians were amazed at the concept of paid maternity leave...could not believe the UK clinicians had had more than one paid maternity and that maternal/infant health was built into terms and conditions.

What they did get, which staff in the UK do not get, was free coffee and pastries in the Theatre staff room.

I'm not surprised unfortunately. The USA is a great place to be wealthy but a truly hideous one to be dirt poor.

The thing that struck me most was turning on my TV in the middle of the day in a hotel and watching a sort of infomercial for Asprin. The purpose for the commercial was to say that if you were poor and had coronary heart disease, then Asprin would keep you alive: clearly you could forget surgical options or statins as they cost more and require you to pay to visit doctors.

ETA: you would think that at least it would contain a bit of information about not smoking or maintaining a healthy weight if you couldn't get access to other stuff, but no, it was purely about flogging tablets.

Generali

PasturesNew wrote: »

Secret Eaters on Channel 4.... always gobsmacked at the bad stuff they do scoff and "forget".

At least I know, acknowledge and understand all the calories in my foodfests!

Many fatties on this programme are gobsmacked that alcohol has calories ... and the programme shows them guzzling bottles of wine and drinks with friends/meals galore.

They did a food diary for a week. Her: 2000/day, lots of fruit. Him 2900/day, cereal for breakfast salads for lunch.

Now they spy on them/film them for a week and see what they REALLY eat.

First night and the woman eats her low calorie TV dinner ..... with 3 slices of garlic bread round the side at 200+ calories. And 17 minutes later she had 2 chocolate teacakes ... another 200 calories.

First day and the man fills up his car with fuel and picked up a Mars bar at the shop.

On Day 3, when the man usually has a salad (he says) he went into a pie shop and bought a bread roll, a hot pie, ketchup. He made a pie sandwich from them!

Day 4 he says breakfast is a piece of toast or cereal - by 8am he'd already had a 2nd breakfast. He'd stopped and bought a Bellybuster of bacon, sausage, a fried egg, black pudding and a hash brown in a big baguette - they analysed that and it was 962 calories.

She said "sometimes I have a mid morning snack of a banana" - on the way home from work she stopped off at the supermarket and bought 12 packs of crisps and a huge chocolate bar. She polished off 9 bags of crisps and 12 bars of chocolate in the week. One work colleague said she's seen her eat 3 packets of crisps in a row before.

He had a breakfast of bacon/egg muffin, over 600 calories ... then he was back into the kitchen and filled a bowl with another 7 bacon rashers. Later they went for a walk, to the supermarket, they bought ham/cheese/pickle sandwich each and some crisps. She didn't want half her sandwich so he ate it. Then they were off to the parents' house for the planned Sunday roast - he's already had 3000 calories today. Show people popped into the parents' house to find out what they ate.... and it had been video'd. Then he had tins of beer, 5 tins. Sunday dinner he'd called a "healthy lunch" as he had veggies. His Sunday lunch was 2700 calories. That one Sunday he ate 7,500 calories. He said "I do that every Sunday"

I once went to Mr S in Bromley and there was a woman who would be described in Aus as a 'big unit' if she played rugby in front of me in the queue.

She put a few Weight Watchers ready meals on the counter, a couple of bottles of diet coke and a 1kg bar of Dairy Milk chocolate.

Actually that was a quality supermarket. Another time a bloke in front of me put 2 or 3 bottles of spirits on the counter, fell over and wet himself. He was very disappointed that they wouldn't sell him the booze. You've gotta be really drunk not to get served in Britain IME. They'll basically serve anyone.

Generali

mystic_trev wrote: »

I was in North Yorkshire couple of weeks ago, on a walking Holiday with some friends. We stopped off at a Pub one lunchtime, and a dish called Parmo was on the menu. We asked what it was, to be told it was a local speciality.



Here's what it consists of :eek:

Chicken or pork fillets are flattened, then dipped in egg and then bread crumbs, after which it is deep-fried. Onto this is poured a thick, white sauce (similar to b!chamel sauce, but butter may be partially or wholly replaced by other fats) and then it is topped with grated cheese. The cheese is usually cheddar, rather than the Parmesan cheese that originally gave the dish its name. The dish is then grilled or baked to melt the cheese.

So not too much cholesterol :rotfl:

Needless to say I only had a small one.

It's an absolute staple of the Australian pub menu. Over here it has a tomato sauce like you might put on pasta on top and some grated, melted parmesan. Served with chips and salad it's usually the cheapest main meal on the menu.

PasturesNew

Generali wrote: »

...bottles of diet coke ....

I justify pie/chips and a diet drink figuring that all the diet drinks I have will add up to the pie/chips, so I've "saved up" for those

I'm overweight .... on the top edge of a BMI "normal".... but being short that's part of the territory .... luckily for me society's become obese so I am not so obviously chunky

If your waist is bigger than your height you're in trouble .... and I'm nowhere near that

I do think about my over-eating.... yesterday, for example, untethered I'd have bought two packs of Jaffa cakes, some lemon meringue cheesecake nibbles, a bar of chocolate and a box of chocolate biscuits on special price ..... those are the things I didn't put in my basket because I was aware .... "all" I got instead was: 3 individual mini cheesecakes, a packet of sour jelly sweets and a bag of salted peanuts.

I'll also sometimes choose food based on the calories in the pack. So, given two items that appear the same (e.g. eyeing up two pizzas and can't decide) I'll read the labels and choose the one with the least calories. It's not a lot, but every little helps

lostinrates

Spirit wrote: »

I would love a trip to Bath with you and others. The make up has not progressed beyond the mascara! Shall we make a date regardless of whether I go with him or not, as that is conditional on my health whilst an outing to Bath should be fine if you are up to it. It would be good to see you after your own recent ups and downs.

Thanks for the support, this has had very many chances of going t!ts up as the regional crisis developed and ebbed. Much beyond his control, he has just had to keep the wheels from falling off and has done so whilst keeping everyone "on board" by being a Nice man.

No word from him today as he will be at sea and busy, weather on land says it is raining with low wind:(

Sounds good.

PN would you be up for bath too?

Anyone else? We can move this to email to find a date etc.

Generali

PasturesNew wrote: »

I justify pie/chips and a diet drink figuring that all the diet drinks I have will add up to the pie/chips, so I've "saved up" for those

I'm overweight .... on the top edge of a BMI "normal".... but being short that's part of the territory .... luckily for me society's become obese so I am not so obviously chunky

If your waist is bigger than your height you're in trouble .... and I'm nowhere near that

I do think about my over-eating.... yesterday, for example, untethered I'd have bought two packs of Jaffa cakes, some lemon meringue cheesecake nibbles, a bar of chocolate and a box of chocolate biscuits on special price ..... those are the things I didn't put in my basket because I was aware .... "all" I got instead was: 3 individual mini cheesecakes, a packet of sour jelly sweets and a bag of salted peanuts.

I'll also sometimes choose food based on the calories in the pack. So, given two items that appear the same (e.g. eyeing up two pizzas and can't decide) I'll read the labels and choose the one with the least calories. It's not a lot, but every little helps

If you're on the top edge of normal then you're normal.

I'm in the overweight category by about 10lbs. I have very large legs because of my cycling though so BMI doesn't really work for me. My waist is 32" so I'm not fat.

You don't seem to eat any fruit or veggies at all. Not that it's my business.

PasturesNew

When I was 13 or 14 I went to stay for a weekend with an American family. They lived in a rented big/old house (1700s, red brick style) and had 3-4 teenagers - the husband will have been in the UK on some US military base. We all went fruit picking - as paid help. That was a great day, I think we picked plums or apples.... that activity was so common in the region that I can't recall.

Had a lovely weekend and got a few bob in my pocket.

A few weeks later one of the teen girls was riding on the back of the tractor/trailer and did a cartwheel off the back - and broke her leg. That ended her dreams of being a ballerina, although that was a bit of a dream as she wasn't really "built for it", being on the super-sized American scale of largeness.

michaels

Generali wrote: »

Sorted!

You should start a new website: subletting-to-dodgy-druggies.com. I can help you with the multi-billion dollar share floatation.

Hmm - bit worried you would never be able to do business with Americans again if you underwrote that one.

PasturesNew wrote: »

I have to go out later as I failed at shopping yesterday. I was so focussed on the new chair purchase and acquisition that I didn't pay proper attention to my list... and I managed to do M's, T's and Lidl .... and get nearly home and thought "damn, milk".... then I toasted one of my newly acquired muffins and thought "damn, margarine".... and this morning I scraped out the final/tiny scraps of marg from the tub for my crumpets for breakfast.....

I went to Mr S yesterday, at end of shopping remembered DK prescriptions, thought 'darn I'll have to wait now instead of them doing it whilst I shopped, went to pharmacy counter to find it had closed 2 minutes before so 100% fail rather than just 50% fail and a trip out again today required.