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The CO-OP and CEL

Customers of the CO-OP are being taken to court by CEL. When motorists have written to the store complaining about this they have received an astonishing reply stating that the CO-OP will pay CEL the £150 odd pounds to prevent the case actually going to court.

What a waste of money! If I was a CO-OP member I would be writing to senior management complaining about this, and the impact it will have on member's dividends.
What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
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  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    You got to be kidding, the thing to be getting is whether the contract allows CEL to take anyone to court
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Stroma wrote: »
    You got to be kidding, the thing to be getting is whether the contract allows CEL to take anyone to court

    I very much doubt it
    Proud to be a member of the Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Gang.:D:T
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    This is an email sent out to one customer:-

    Dear XXXXX

    [FONT=Arial,Sans-Serif]Thank you for contacting XXXXX regarding the correspondence you have received relating to a parking charge; he has requested that I respond on his behalf.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial,Sans-Serif] [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial,Sans-Serif]Firstly, may I apologise for any concern this has caused you, I do appreciate this type of correspondence can be upsetting, and regret that you have received it as a consequence of using a car park at one of our Stores. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial,Sans-Serif] [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial,Sans-Serif]Is the PCN for this charge the reference listed in your original email - XXXXXX. Please be assured that I have made arrangements for this charge to be paid directly to the debt recovery agent who is acting on behalf of the Parking Management company not the Co-operative. This should take about 10 days to fully process and will ensure that the matter is resolved fully for you, however I would caution that they may send a further letter in the interim period, if this is the case please do let me know, and if I can be of any further assistance in relation to this matter, do not hesitate to get in touch. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial,Sans-Serif] [/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Sans-Serif]Yours sincerely[/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Sans-Serif]XXXXXXXXX
    [/FONT]

    [FONT=Arial,Sans-Serif]Customer Careline Team
    [/FONT]
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • But for the PCN to have any standing (we all know they don't in the vast majority of circumstances) then CEL must have been acting on behalf of the Co-op or at least the landowner if the Co-op has no rights to the car park.
    Je suis Charlie
  • esmerobbo
    esmerobbo Posts: 4,979 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    I suppose it depends on what is contained in the contract between CEL and the CO OP.
    Maybe someone forgot to put a clause in were the CO OP could instruct CEL to cancel.
  • da_rule
    da_rule Posts: 3,618 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 1,000 Posts
    I suppose it depends whether the car park is owned by Co-Op or is part of a shopping/industrial park and therefore owned by a third party. It is odd though, as most shops on a retail park have a way of having PCN's cancelled without having to physically pay the PPC off themselves.
  • No they are all co op car parks.

    Being a mutual I wonder does co.op have a members forum?
    Proud to be a member of the Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Gang.:D:T
  • 4consumerrights
    4consumerrights Posts: 2,002 Forumite
    edited 8 March 2014 at 10:01PM
    I believe the CO-OP in the UK has regional groups for members - must dig out paperwork!


    Co-Op facebook

    https://www.facebook.com/TheCooperative


    The Co-Op bank are in financial difficulties after making a number of unwise investments - received a letter this week thanking me for being considerate and a customer over their difficult trading times!

    So if they are paying these unsubstantiated parking charges - which have been ruled as penalties in a recent appeal hearing, then this is having an impact on dividends paid to members.

    Anyone who is a Co-Op member could raise an issue here.
  • patman99
    patman99 Posts: 8,532 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Photogenic
    Just posted on their F/B page.
    Never Knowingly Understood.

    Member #1 of £1,000 challenge - £13.74/ £1000 (that's 1.374%)

    3-6 month EF £0/£3600 (that's 0 days worth)

  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    The Co-Op acquired Somerfield a few years ago and Somerfield suffered a badly bloodied nosed when they attempted to kick out ParkingEye who promptly sued them. The case did ParkingEye no favours in terms of what it revealed of their internal workings (and the judges didn't hold back in what they had to say) but they did win and were awarded costs. It may well be the memory of that case that is driving the current decision even if CEL are are far smaller outfit.

    In this climate CEL will be unlikely to retain their contract for very much longer. If the Co-Op ditch them then that should be sending out a substantial message to the retail world. Of course the pro-PPC nay-sayers will simply dismiss this as being a "commercial decision". It undoubtedly is (after all its made by a commercial entity) but if they cannot read the runes then they are even less commercially astute than I ever thought. Silly me.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
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