Help please. What to do about discrimination at work.

tomtontom

Suesue914 wrote: »

The financial aspect of this matter is a factor but it is minimal.
The manager in question is incompetent and having spoken to others they agree. This is mainly my issue. The manager has all the protection but where is mine?
At the time of the disciplinary my mind was on other things. I admit that. I was having issues then with my anxiety then but I dont think I have been discriminated against because of my anxiety.

Unless you want another disciplinary, stop discussing your views on your manager with other people.

BillJones

Suesue914 wrote: »

The financial aspect of this matter is a factor but it is minimal.
The manager in question is incompetent and having spoken to others they agree.

So now you are fomenting trouble and, it sounds, slagging off your manager to other staff, and adsking them to agree?

After one warning, this is not very clever.

Poppie68

To be honest it sounds like if you carry on you may well see your self in trouble again. Is the manager aware you are going around taking about them to everyone? You say everyone agrees with you, maybe they are just be diplomatic and agreeing with you because thy don't want to get involved, but you seem intent on involving everyone around you...you admit you did something wrong and the consqeunce of that was a written warning..you cannot go around asking people if they have ever had one , it is not allowed and they could be just saying no to you....because frankly it isn't any of your business.

lakes17

I completely agree with tontomton and BillJones, your actions in work is a sure-fire way to get another warning and because you're currently on a "live" warning will automatically escalate to the next stage of the disciplinary procedure which could ultimately lead to your dismissal on a matter that wouldn't normally be classed as dismissal.

Even though others have done the same thing and not gone through a disciplinary you don't know the reasons surrounding this decision, it could be you had been their a long time whilst the others only a short time and it was deemed you should have known better?

If your company is a large one they may have an in-house counselling service which you could access free of charge. There you will be able to completely sound of and they will suggest strategies to cope with your feelings before you do more damage to your personnel record!!

PHILANTHROPIST

Suesue914 wrote: »

The financial aspect of this matter is a factor but it is minimal.
The manager in question is incompetent and having spoken to others they agree. This is mainly my issue. The manager has all the protection but where is mine?
At the time of the disciplinary my mind was on other things. I admit that. I was having issues then with my anxiety then but I dont think I have been discriminated against because of my anxiety.

Suesue - whilst I agree with many members comments re their recommendation for you to let go, again it is your choice.

Re discrimination. You may well be protected under the Equality Act and you may well have been protected for many months if not longer. Your employer may or may not have noticed. If they did, they will not in all likelihood admit to it. Nobody on this site can offer a definitive opinion re a workplace disability. My hunch ... you may well pass the requisite test. However, whether you have been discriminated against, vicitimised etc is a different matter all together.

On this and other similar forums, unless you raised a very simple query, you will likely not be able to receive a definitive answer. Opinions differ. More importantly we do not know the detailed facts and circumstances as portrayed by both parties.

To draw a line under things can I recommend that you make contact with the following free, confidential and excellent organisation. They will most likely either answer, or come close to impartially answering, the question you asked in your thread :

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/about-us/contactus/

Hope it goes well for you and I hope that you will be able to move on.

Poppie68

PHILANTHROPIST wrote: »

Suesue - whilst I agree with many members comments re their recommendation for you to let go, again it is your choice.

Re discrimination. You may well be protected under the Equality Act and you may well have been protected for many months if not longer. Your employer may or may not have noticed. If they did, they will not in all likelihood admit to it. Nobody on this site can offer a definitive opinion re a workplace disability. My hunch ... you may well pass the requisite test. However, whether you have been discriminated against, vicitimised etc is a different matter all together.

On this and other similar forums, unless you raised a very simple query, you will likely not be able to receive a definitive answer. Opinions differ. More importantly we do not know the detailed facts and circumstances as portrayed by both parties.

To draw a line under things can I recommend that you make contact with the following free, confidential and excellent organisation. They will most likely either answer, or come close to impartially answering, the question you asked in your thread :

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/about-us/contactus/

Hope it goes well for you and I hope that you will be able to move on.

The op doesn't believe she is being discriminated for her anxiety issues....
If the employer doesn't know about her issues they can't be seen to be discrimnating against her on this basis...they are not mind readers...
If she feels anxiety is an issue with her work and makes the desicion to discuss this with her employer they will be able to refer her to occupational health who can help on several levels including discussing reasonable adjustments.
The equality act is'nt a free pass card and it does allow for disciplinary action to be taken against an employee but in some situations other factors have to be taken into consideration.


I think the op is obsessing and maybe her anxiety is a cause of this...but the reason for which she disciplined for anxiety doesn't seem to of been a factor.

PHILANTHROPIST

Poppie68 wrote: »

The op doesn't believe she is being discriminated for her anxiety issues....
If the employer doesn't know about her issues they can't be seen to be discrimnating against her on this basis...they are not mind readers...
If she feels anxiety is an issue with her work and makes the desicion to discuss this with her employer they will be able to refer her to occupational health who can help on several levels including discussing reasonable adjustments.
The equality act is'nt a free pass card and it does allow for disciplinary action to be taken against an employee but in some situations other factors have to be taken into consideration.


I think the op is obsessing and maybe her anxiety is a cause of this...but the reason for which she disciplined for anxiety doesn't seem to of been a factor.

In summary we agree.

As per link above, I recommend that Suesue contacts EHRC (aka EASS).

To say Suesue is obsessing is an opinion you are entitled to. Despite having a legal background I do not subscribe to the cruel to be kind approach with suspected mental health issues.

Poppie68

PHILANTHROPIST wrote: »

In summary we agree.

As per link above, I recommend that Suesue contacts EHRC (aka EASS).

To say Suesue is obsessing is an opinion you are entitled to. Despite having a legal background I do not subscribe to the cruel to be kind approach with suspected mental health issues.

Pointing out or suggesting she is obsessing is not cruel it's an observation. She seems single minded about this warning and her anxiety is playing a big part in this which does make someone suffering from anxiety obsess.
She has held this job down for many years which point to a
very capable person given her illness but if she doesn't get help or/and help with closure she could land herself in more trouble..
I wish her all the best and really hope everything turns out positive for her.

PHILANTHROPIST

Poppie68 wrote: »

Pointing out or suggesting she is obsessing is not cruel it's an observation. She seems single minded about this warning and her anxiety is playing a big part in this which does make someone suffering from anxiety obsess.
She has held this job down for many years which point to a
very capable person given her illness but if she doesn't get help or/and help with closure she could land herself in more trouble..
I wish her all the best and really hope everything turns out positive for her.

Thanks Poppie.

Suesue - best of luck.

paulineb_2

Sounds like you are suffering from work related stress. To be honest with you, if I were in a job and had done something that I should have got a verbal telling off for and ended up with a written warning on my file for a year I might not be that happy either.

Particularly if other people in the team had done the same and not ended up with any warning. Surely the disciplinary procedures should be applied fairly across the board? In practice of course they don't always, but its very easy to say just accept it and get on with it when you aren't in that situation.

Not completing paperwork? What paperwork? How important was it that this paperwork was completed on time and what were the consequences of it not being completed.

Ive suffered from work related stress in the past. Its awful and sometimes employers arent understanding. Even if theyve caused it. Occupational health can be a supportive tool, it was for me, but Ive known employers to refer to occupational health as a first step in getting rid of someone (Im not saying lots of employers do this, but some do)

I can imagine that stress will be present because you have 6 months of this warning to go and you could be concerned about getting another one, also because you feel like you were treated differently.

Of course you aren't supposed to know whether other people have been disciplined or not for the same mistake you made, but I think you would be perfectly within your rights to ask whether the mistake you made is an automatic written year long warning.

If you aren't in a union I agree that I think you should join one.