PCN in the dark (CPM UK Car Park Management)

dodo24

Hi All,

I received a PCN last night placed in a nice yellow stickY stuck to my window screen. I was parked behind some shops off a high street of which was pitch black and other cars were parked and I could see the guy sitting in his smart car watching people arrive so he could put these tickets on the car.

I have been online and checked the photos he took which shows how dark it was as there is no lighting and he need the lights of his car to see the car. He also stated the colour of the car incorrectly due to the poor light DARK GREY when in fact the car is black ! I even took photos of the signs when I actually found them not that I could read them.

The car is a lease car so reading through the first thread to newbies bit confused as it's a lease car.

All help duely welcomed.

Thank you

kirkbyinfurnesslad_2

As its a lease car, write straight away to the parking company, giving your details as the driver with an appeal

dodo24

Thank you letter written and will be posted this weekend. Think I will do a detour on the way home to worn any oter poor folk as it's Friday and the fast food chains are busy.

Coupon-mad

Please take pics of the lack of signage at the entrance - in the dark, no flash - and a close up of the wording in daylight or with flash so we can read it.

Please send the version of an appeal letter I wrote in the NEWBIES thread, not your own version, as I wrote it specifically to flush out firms like UKCPM whose signs seem to pretend the charge is a contractual fee. Use the first appeal letter here but just change it to start 'I am the driver and...' & remove any little sentence which talks about 'the registered keeper' (as you are not).

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822

You need to use those words, the bullet points in the template I wrote, to get them to say what the basis of the charge is or you will have very little to go on at POPLA appeal except their ambiguous/dark sign and a PCN.

This particularly important for UKCPM, based on previous cases. Please show us your photos when you have them as we need to see the wording and the view as you saw it (pitch black).

dodo24

Thank you for the kind advice letter is prepared and will be sent off.

Can you advise on how to post pictures for you to view the signs please as I keep getting messages for spammers etc.

Thank you

Stroma

remove the http://www part of the link. Also any letters sent, get a free proof of postage from the post office

dodo24

OK took some pictures this morning of signs and parking area will take some night shots today/tomorrow as it was raining heavy last night. Appreciate your comments/feedback on this.

Can you post photobucket pics ? struggling to get them on..

dodo24

Does this work?

i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s388/Sportline30/Parking1.jpg

i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s388/Sportline30/Parking3-1.jpg

i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s388/Sportline30/Parking2.jpg

should be a direct link with http:// in front

tykesi

http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s388/Sportline30/Parking1.jpg

http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s388/Sportline30/Parking3-1.jpg

http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s388/Sportline30/Parking2.jpg

There you go

dodo24

Thank you Tykesi.

Coupon-mad

That looks like the same car park which two other posters have recently posted about getting a ticket in the dark. I think they were UKCPM cases too - search the forum for 'UKCPM' or 'pitch black' to find the threads I am thinking of and see if this is the same place!

EDIT - found one of them! Cazador's thread: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4899567

That is a standard UKCPM sign we've seen before and needs special wording for a POPLA appeal in due course. It will be interesting to see how they respond to the request for a VAT invoice for starters as we haven't used that template appeal on them yet...