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RedSpottedHanky 2014 Fantasy F1 GrandPrix - Earn upto £20 and iPad/Kindle/iPod prizes

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  • chels
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    How do we find out the shorter races, can we change things?

    i made 270 on my race, i dunno if that is good, dont know much about this, im just along for the ride.

    The 4 separate date periods are shown under the T&Cs, an extract taken from the T&Cs:

    Period 1 = First Corner, period dates - 16/03/14 to 11/05/14 (payable by 09/06/14). Period 2= Chicane, period dates - 25/05/14 to 06/07/14 (payable by 03/08/14).. Period 3 = Long Straight, period dates, 20/07/14 to 21/09/14 (payable by 19/10/14). Period 4 = Final Lap, period dates 05/10/14 to 23/11/14 (payable by 09.01.15)

    I don't think you can change the bonus circuit once it's chosen.

    I'm on 492 points, didn't think i'd done too bad but feels a bit pathetic compared to the current top team on 1158 points :eek: lol.

    Ah well, it's a bit of fun and hopefully a reasonable amount of points for us all to convert later on.
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  • chels
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    quoia wrote: »
    Just found a team that contains Daniel Ricciardo and he STILL is showing as having 77 points

    Now in theory this should ONLY be 20 (for yesterday's Qualifying)

    as I read the rules he should NOT be scoring points for the 57 laps he completed today in the race


    There appears to be 2 relevant bits ...

    .. about "generally" REVERSING decisions after receiving or being given "wrong" information regarding results

    and disqualification information being given before or after the "cut-off" time of 00:01am on the Tuesday following the race.

    http://fantasygp.games-redspottedhanky.com/default.aspx?page=rules


    So I think, expect to lose 57 points in the next day or so.

    According to this from the T&Cs, the initial recorded results stand for the fantasy game:

    The ONLY results used for the game are those initially reported by the key news agencies. If any decision is subsequently reversed, we will NOT reverse the decision of the results initially reported.

    5.10 The Company will use the latest scores reported by key news agencies to use as the basis of the fantasy scoring criteria. Reversed decisions or Post-race disqualifications will not be counted. Points will only be corrected if the initial reporting was incorrect.
  • don_simon
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    chels wrote: »

    I don't think you can change the bonus circuit once it's chosen.

    I'm on 492 points, didn't think i'd done too bad but feels a bit pathetic compared to the current top team on 1158 points :eek: lol.

    Ah well, it's a bit of fun and hopefully a reasonable amount of points for us all to convert later on.
    I was hoping to change my bonus circuit as one of my transfers but you could well be right. It's not clear from the rules but I guess we'll find out next week when the transfer window opens.

    Presumably all the top teams will have used their bonus so 492 doesn't sound too bad (assuming you didn't use your bonus!). I got 486, so just slightly behind target to hit 2500 for the first 5 races.
  • Pemberton01
    Pemberton01 Posts: 268 Forumite
    In terms of rules regarding disqualification, as in the case of Ricciardo, the section Reverse Decisions in the rules seems to say that if a driver is disqualified after the race and before 00.01 GMT (or BST) on the Tuesday after the race, the amended result rather than the original result will be used for Fantasy F1 points allocations.
  • chels
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    don_simon wrote: »
    I was hoping to change my bonus circuit as one of my transfers but you could well be right. It's not clear from the rules but I guess we'll find out next week when the transfer window opens.

    Presumably all the top teams will have used their bonus so 492 doesn't sound too bad (assuming you didn't use your bonus!). I got 486, so just slightly behind target to hit 2500 for the first 5 races.

    Yeah, they presumably used up their bonus circuit, I haven't got to my bonus circuit yet. It just made my total look rubbish in comparison lol but it's probably ok taking that into account.

    With regard to changing the bonus circuit, all other components are clickable whereas the bonus circuit isn't so that made me believe you can't change it but we shall see.
  • quoia wrote: »
    To end on a POSITIVE note ....

    CONGRATULATIONS :T :T :T :T to ....


    HK Dynasty
    Norfolkandchance
    Charmed
    Return of Lewis
    Toocoolforskool


    .. who ALL scored MAXIMUM POINTS in the Qualifying session

    by picking 4 Drivers that all got through to Q3 ....

    which also included the driver that set the FASTEST LAP in each of Q1, Q2 and Q3 (which is POLE :j)

    WELL DONE !

    So, woooooooo! Then boo :( for Daniel Ricciardo. No idea about GP, just picked on names id heard or liked. :D
  • quoia
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    chels wrote: »
    According to this from the T&Cs, the initial recorded results stand for the fantasy game:

    The ONLY results used for the game are those initially reported by the key news agencies. If any decision is subsequently reversed, we will NOT reverse the decision of the results initially reported.

    5.10 The Company will use the latest scores reported by key news agencies to use as the basis of the fantasy scoring criteria. Reversed decisions or Post-race disqualifications will not be counted. Points will only be corrected if the initial reporting was incorrect.
    In terms of rules regarding disqualification, as in the case of Ricciardo, the section Reverse Decisions in the rules seems to say that if a driver is disqualified after the race and before 00.01 GMT (or BST) on the Tuesday after the race, the amended result rather than the original result will be used for Fantasy F1 points allocations.

    Exactly as I said ...

    "There appears to be 2 relevant bits ..." (Which are)

    1. "OFFICIAL" changes of decisions (as per this disqualification) providing it happens before this "cut-off" time of 00:01am on the Tuesday following the race.

    This appears to have already happened since Ricciardo has had his "finishing" points removed - although his 57 points for his 57 laps seem to have remained.

    As I read it .... > A disqualified driver WILL NOT SCORE ANY POINTS !
    So not sure how these 57 still exist

    .... and even if this is appealed and changed ...

    By the fact that this will be after "00:01am on the Tuesday following the race" this will not retrospectively be applied to the game

    2. As per the quote above
    "Points will only be corrected if the initial reporting was incorrect."

    which is as I said previously ...

    "generally" REVERSING decisions after receiving or being given "wrong" information regarding results

    We'll see soon enough.
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  • quoia
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    quoia wrote: »
    Exactly as I said ...

    "There appears to be 2 relevant bits ..." (Which are)

    1. "OFFICIAL" changes of decisions (as per this disqualification) providing it happens before this "cut-off" time of 00:01am on the Tuesday following the race.

    This appears to have already happened since Ricciardo has had his "finishing" points removed - although his 57 points for his 57 laps seem to have remained.

    As I read it .... > A disqualified driver WILL NOT SCORE ANY POINTS !
    So not sure how these 57 still exist

    .... and even if this is appealed and changed ...

    By the fact that this will be after "00:01am on the Tuesday following the race" this will not retrospectively be applied to the game

    2. As per the quote above
    "Points will only be corrected if the initial reporting was incorrect."

    which is as I said previously ...

    "generally" REVERSING decisions after receiving or being given "wrong" information regarding results

    We'll see soon enough.

    Update to the above ...

    Ricciardo HAS LOST his 57 points for completing 57 laps

    His total is JUST 20 - those scored in Qualifying


    If you look at OUT OF FORM components

    http://fantasygp.games-redspottedhanky.com/stats.aspx?page=outForm

    you will see it shows just 20 points

    BUT IF you click on his name

    http://fantasygp.games-redspottedhanky.com/stats.aspx?page=player&id=51369

    It does still show the 57 laps he completed but the score for Australia GP RACE = 0

    Yesterday I did look at a team that contained Ricciardo and although it did reflect his disqualification and he had lost the points for finishing 2nd it did still contain "his laps" and was 77 points

    For the same team it is now just 20

    SO the 57 HAVE GONE !

    Everyone needs to check their points - they will have changes from earlier today
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  • quoia
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    chels wrote: »
    <snip>
    I'm on 492 points, didn't think i'd done too bad but feels a bit pathetic compared to the current top team on 1158 points :eek: lol.

    Ah well, it's a bit of fun and hopefully a reasonable amount of points for us all to convert later on.
    </snip>
    don_simon wrote: »
    <snip>
    Presumably all the top teams will have used their bonus so 492 doesn't sound too bad (assuming you didn't use your bonus!). I got 486, so just slightly behind target to hit 2500 for the first 5 races.
    </snip>
    chels wrote: »
    <snip>
    Yeah, they presumably used up their bonus circuit, I haven't got to my bonus circuit yet. It just made my total look rubbish in comparison lol but it's probably ok taking that into account.
    </snip>

    The absolute MAXIMUM that anyone could have scored for this GP race weekend IF they had picked the "perfect" team for it ....


    ... is ... (EXCLUDING picking Australia GP as your Bonus Circuit)


    586


    Potentially this could be doubled to 1172 with the Bonus Circuit "Joker" card


    As for the Top Team (Vroom_Vroom ?) having 1158 points - I suggest you check again

    This seems to have been revised to 1108 (554 x 2)


    In the MSE league 2 teams Woodford Wanderers and Whoosh have 1006 having "played their joker"



    TOP "MSE" TEAM with the Bonus Circuit "still up their sleeve" is

    Buckleys with 534 points



    As for yourselves don simon and chels ....

    ... it looks like your scores have been revised as well since I cannot see a score of 492 OR 486 in the MSE league

    Team super dons (don simon?) now has a score of 461
    Not sure which team is yours chels :(
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