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Civil Enforcement ltd ignored all letters now have county court form help!

nach_2
nach_2 Posts: 7 Forumite
in Parking tickets, fines & parking
I parked in a shop car park in 2012 and overstayed as I went shopping and then had to breastfeed my baby. I sort advice and ignored all correspondence and now have a county claim court letter. I have tried to log in to MCOL but in my pack I don't have a defence password so do I defend via mail? If so do I fill out all my details on the form? And how do I go about putting together my claim? It is so long ago I thought it had all gone away


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  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    When in 2012 is this, just pre or post October 2012 will do. You need to ring the court to make sure this is a real claim
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • nach_2
    nach_2 Posts: 7 Forumite
    It was pre Oct 2012. Do I just ring Northampton court then?
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    Have you contacted CEL at all, at any time? If not then they cannot know that the registered keeper was also the driver - they are fishing. (Pre October 2012 means pre-POFA, where POFA brought into law registered keeper liability for parking charges [subject to certain conditions and criteria being met]).

    Ring the court to check that these are real court papers - sometimes fake papers are sent to scare people into paying.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    I am not sure how CEL lodge claims, whether through mcol or the manual way, so you do defence in writing. But I think you have one chance to submit a defence on the latter. But first make sure it's a real claim with the courts. It probably is to be honest. Some of the other guys have more experience in this, so please wait for further advice
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • kirkbyinfurnesslad_2
    kirkbyinfurnesslad_2 Posts: 2,340 Forumite
    edited 26 February 2014 at 5:01PM
    Is it it even a genuine claim form?

    If it is, it will be issued by the Manchester bulk service , not northampton, its off line, so MCOL isnt relevant

    I wonder if CEL have just done a new bunch of claims, i will send you a pm with my email address and will gladly help you defend this claim.

    CEL have a habbit of giving up against well defended claims
    Proud to be a member of the Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Gang.:D:T
  • 4consumerrights
    4consumerrights Posts: 2,002 Forumite
    edited 26 February 2014 at 5:01PM
    CEL still don't invoke keeper liability now in their notices - just a fishing trip for driver's details.


    I parked in a shop car park in 2012 and overstayed as I went shopping and then had to breastfeed my baby.

    The Equality Act comes into play here - removing arbitary time limits for unlawful discrimination.
  • kirkbyinfurnesslad_2
    kirkbyinfurnesslad_2 Posts: 2,340 Forumite
    4consumerrights wrote: »
    CEL still don't invoke keeper liability now in their notices - just a fishing trip for driver's details.

    Not really, given the number of claims CEL have issued, they fold against a good defence and go ahead when its not a good defence
    Proud to be a member of the Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Gang.:D:T
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Is CEL up for this I wonder, after their little setback in court.

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/civil-enforcement-limited-finally-turn.html
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • kirkbyinfurnesslad_2
    kirkbyinfurnesslad_2 Posts: 2,340 Forumite
    Well that will of course be mentioned.

    Am just waiting for the OP to send me the claim by email.
    Proud to be a member of the Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Gang.:D:T
  • kirkbyinfurnesslad_2
    kirkbyinfurnesslad_2 Posts: 2,340 Forumite
    Still awaiting your court papers
    Proud to be a member of the Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Gang.:D:T
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